July 2, 2007...11:50 pm
Every Man I Have Ever Pissed on 1994-2007
I really don’t like the term piss play. Or anything ‘play’, really. Sometimes the infantilisation of kink makes me feel slightly bilious.
Toys. Play.
Not in and, oh my god, won’t somebody think of the children, kind of way. I realise it is possible to use the word ‘play’ without meaning anything ultra-creepy. I just hate the way kink sometimes seems to exist in this strange place on the Venn diagram where trivial and pompous intersect.
Okay, I know I say time and again that this isn’t serious. And it isn’t. And really anyone dominant who describes what they do as art makes me worried (craft at most – truly, because surely there’s a functionality in the bit where things are getting hard and engorged and wet and going into rhythmic spasm – without that part, where are you?), but – having said that - this isn’t hopscotch either.
Because really, if this is play, then there’s something wrong with me, the way it makes me feel inside.
But, face facts – “piss play” is a whole lot nicer than any of the other terms we could dredge up and puke over. This post will not be talking about anything *golden*, anything *nectar*, or frankly anything that makes it sound *nice*. It is not nice. That is the point. It is dirtybadwrong.
Which is nice in a way. But the other kind of nice, not the nectar kind of nice.
I love piss.
Just the thing. In and of itself. The hot, the salt, the colour, the smell. God, I love the smell. I love the way it works like perfume and the scent of it changes as it dries on your skin. The way it kaleidoscopes through different notes. It starts off light and nothing, then fruit, green apples I’d say if I was so inclined – and then it just gets darker and harder and nastier until it’s just dirty back streets and bad, bad things.
Everywhere you shouldn’t go. Everything you shouldn’t say. Everyone your mother warned you about.
The last person I pissed on was the X. It was actually the last thing we ever did together. Afterwards he kind of dropped out and we stopped and after he’d got changed he drove me home. We’d rented this cottage. We still had a day left on the place but we knew when we were done. Or maybe I knew when he was done.
And there was no hanging out together just having fun with me and the X. There was just the scene and there was nothing else. This made the sex really good. And made everything else hurt me.
So we washed the piss off and then we pissed off. (Is that too cute? I kind of liked it.)
I don’t drive, so Pan had dropped me off at the cottage and the X brought me back. I was feeling weird anyway. 3 days it had been. 3 days of not being a human. Of not speaking normally to another person. Just him and me and the gap we’d made between us.
I used to really push myself with him. Through walls of endurance and shame. I don’t know why. We hardly spoke on the drive home. The X had a way of making me feel guilty. Now I know it was because he felt bad about what he’d let me do. But then I just felt used.
The real truth is, the X, over and above anyone else was the man who made Bitchy Jones. I have a lot more scars than he does.
A few days after that he called me and told me about his new vanilla-conversion-project girlfriend. And that that relationship had actually started before we went away. He’d known he was leaving me that whole three days. He’d always wanted me to piss on him. It almost felt like when that happened he’d realised he was done with me.
But, I mean, it wasn’t like me and the X were ever going to get married or anything. The rejection hurt me, but I was in love with someone else all along anyway.
I’ve been in love with the same person for 12 years.
Pan. Always. I went home to Pan after I’d climbed out of that emotional pit. And like with many things, Pan had been the first.
Pan was the first man I ever pissed on. I might have pissed on Pan before we’d actually had sex. The first things we did together were me pissing on him and me stubbing cigarettes out on his chest. That seems such an odd place to start now – I don’t remember it seeming odd then.
I was 23. So was he. He was wearing this cheap suit. He wore that suit every day. Reservoir Dogs had just come out. Black suit, white shirt, black tie. Still love men in suits – still love ties.
Just like the X would years later, he lay in the bath. It was daytime. Daylight outside.
And it was really hard to do. It’s really hard to break your conditioning and piss like that.
And it’s really hard to piss when you are turned on because all your cunt is engorged with blood and everything is sex-swollen and gets in the way.
This is so fucked up. Something that really fucking turns me on is really hard to do *because* it turns me on. It would be *easier* to piss on someone if it wasn’t at all exciting. What a fucking stupid piece of ironicana.
I used to think – hiss, spit – much easier for mandoms and their hosepipe attachment. But actually, don’t they kind of have the same problem? Like, when they start having a good time doesn’t their hosepipe attachment get a lot less flexible?
Either way, this whole thing was not thought through. If that isn’t an argument against intelligent design I don’t know what it.
Pissing on people is not as easy as it looks in the movies. But it is worth it.
Like: In the mouth. In the hair. In the open eyes. So pretty. Then on the floor so he can lick it up. Wipe it on his face. That’s my favourite. Hand flat in it, then wiped right across the closed mouth. His hand or my hand – both work for me.
I thought that suit had been thrown away, but I asked Pan while I was writing this and he says he washed it. He says we still have it somewhere. He’s such a romantic.
So there’s piss. Right there at the start of the best relationship I ever had. And at the end of the (debatably) worst one. Piss. Hello. Goodbye. Where most people might have a kiss.
Afterwards I think fuck it and drop right down in there with him and feel it on his skin, seeping through my clothes and lick his sticky, salty, musky face.
Because I want it too. Me mixed with him. My piss on his skin. I want it to fill up my senses. Because I am not cold and I and not detached. And I am not reserved. My heart is in the room too. My body is warm inside. I love it. Piss.
So I climb in with green apples and the dirty back streets and known why it rhymes with kiss.
Piss.


42 Comments
July 3, 2007 at 2:36 am
This is quiet possibly the most melancholy, erotic, and quietly hopeful seeming meditation on any subject I’ve ever read.
The only other thing I can think of to say at the moment regards the scars relationships leave, and it was originally said by Johnette Napolitano of Concrete Blonde:
And if I had a choice I’d take the voice I got,
because it was hard to find.
I’ve traveled much to far to wind up right back where I started.
Thanks Jones, that was some damned fine writing.
July 3, 2007 at 2:44 am
That was lovely. Hot, and vaguely sad, without either being at all out of place.
I love it when you write about this - one of my very favorite kinks.
July 3, 2007 at 4:26 am
Piss put in it’s place. And so deftly and off-handedly, without resorting to forced puns (’I'm pissed off!”), or ironic distancing. And super-hot. Romantic in the true, spare, down-low of how couples really are, which makes it sweeter.
July 3, 2007 at 8:20 am
This is a wonderful post. I’ve done it only twice, both times were spur-of-the-moment, here-we-are-out-in-the-woods-and-oh-while-I’m-beating-you-silly-I-suddenly-have-
the-desire-to-shove-you-to-the-ground-and-pee-on-you, no premeditation, always with the same man, someone I was very, very close to… because in fact it’s so intimate, more so than sex really.
So I’d always thought of these moments as isolated exceptions, I’ve never considered myself a big fan of pissing in general, I’m too inhibited or else I just need to be really close to let myself go. The first time was hard, you described it well, feeling blocked even while you want to go on.
What you wrote - and the way you wrote it - was lovely, it made me feel nostalgic for those moments, and for that feeling I had with that man.
Thanks Bitchy.
July 3, 2007 at 8:22 am
“Sometimes the infantilisation of kink makes me feel slightly bilious.”
Yeah, what she said.
July 3, 2007 at 8:33 am
I don’t know if I think it is more intimate than sex. I suppose you need a different kind of bond. But I have pissed on people I never had sex with.
The thing I like is when he opens up to it. Not so much opens his mouth (although that is hot) but opens his body and takes it.
Is that what ejaculating on another person is about? There is something about getting bits of yourself and smearing them on another person. Marking them.
July 3, 2007 at 10:07 am
What a fucking brilliant piece of writing.
God.
July 3, 2007 at 12:18 pm
Yes. Fucking. Brilliant. Difficult to say more. Utterly speechless. Can’t write. See? Kudos. Best thing ever on piss p . . . on pissing.
July 3, 2007 at 5:42 pm
There is so so much to like about this post.
The least of them is the word ironicana.
July 3, 2007 at 7:49 pm
I was planning writing something fun about pissing,but this post is so melancholic all that humour disappeared.
That X guy really seemed insensitive and selfish.
Anyway,piss games aren’t my thing.I consider them a bit disgusting,but I can understand your fun.
July 3, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Oh, and also, apparently about 50% of guys can pee with their dicks hard, and the other 50% of guys, um, can’t.*
* Statistical poll gathered by me at a 2003 TES meeting and so has a 50% margin of error.
July 3, 2007 at 8:47 pm
Well,if you were a male serbian war criminal,I could even give you a chance of trying.
I was reading the comments,and I noticed that part about pissing perhaps being similar to ejaculating. I’ve never thought about that,but it makes a certain sense. Well,at least on a d/s relationship the similarities are clear,mostly if you’re a woman. If you’re a man,I think it gets a slightly more violent meaning.
But the point is that piss is something our body wants to get rid of,it’s not healthy (ok,BDSM isn’t about being healthy,but there’s a difference),so I consider to be highly aggressive,in a bad way,to be made tasting it.
July 4, 2007 at 12:03 am
Haven’t done any piss play since I made a cocktail that was two shots of vodka and 14oz. of her urine.
I want to say something in favor of the word “play.”
Perhaps it is because I live in a fairly puritanical land I think play is great. Near as I can see my fellow citizens spend lots of time running after god, money and self-help books. Really a ludic approach to life is the only thing that seems sensible before the worm start chomping on me.
And it offsets those wearisome lifestyle people who babble on and on about who is “real.”
Passion is fun.
July 4, 2007 at 4:26 am
I have some chocolate coated smack for you. ^_^
July 4, 2007 at 8:59 am
where?
July 4, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Personally I don’t get the whole bathroom scene. Then again, I’m an American and we’re all a bit uptight when it comes to sex and stuff.
-john
July 4, 2007 at 5:27 pm
It’s true John, no Americans would dream of doing something like this, no wonder you all rebelled.
July 4, 2007 at 6:13 pm
Good reminder: it’s Independence Day in the USA.
July 4, 2007 at 6:18 pm
I know. I’m planning to find an American man (or a man who can do a sort-of American accent) and oppress him until he rebels.
Then set off fireworks.
July 4, 2007 at 7:02 pm
Careful, during the last rebellion a lot of good tea got dumped in the harbor.
July 4, 2007 at 7:04 pm
That’s fighting talk where I come from
July 4, 2007 at 7:11 pm
*rebels* *rebels* *rebels*
July 4, 2007 at 7:15 pm
So, are we going for historical accuracy here, or shall I beat you back into submission?
July 4, 2007 at 7:18 pm
Ooh, beaten into submission please.
Can I do a Michael Palin impression and scream, “Help! Help! I’m being oppressed!”
July 4, 2007 at 7:28 pm
Well, you *could*… I’m not exactly short of Monty Python quoting though, you know. Not where I come from…
But I have a few things I like to do to smart mouthed guys who talk to much. So I’m sure I can sort something out.
(We said we’d forget about the historical accuracy, right?)
July 4, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Someone once pointed out that it’s kind of disturbing that a comedy troupe noted for being original and irreverent are being quoted verbatim 30 years after the fact.
And if you wanted to elaborate further on that particular subject, I’m sure any historical inaccuracies could easily be forgiven.
July 4, 2007 at 7:47 pm
I like gags. I have an oral fixation. A fetish for men’s mouths.
I like intelligence. Far too much. It gets me into trouble. I’ve been to bad places for smart guys far too many times. But, yes, I like a man who is cleverer than me because somehow, I think for a smart man, his submission is more humiliating.
I like a man who really knows he’s worth so much more. Who thinks that if I just knew how clever he was, what clever ideas he had in his head, I’d give him so much more respect…
This isn’t relevant so much as to say what I love to do to a smart man is make him shut the fuck up.
Or make him shut himself up. Give him a ball gag and tell him I don’t want to hear anymore. Sometimes, if he’s really smart or arrogant (*down girl*) and if he thinks what he’s saying is really clever or hot or a really good bit of Monty Python, the look on his face when you pass him the gag…
Enough now, smart boy, I’m taking your language away.
July 4, 2007 at 7:49 pm
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July 4, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Your writing is as lovely, more lovely, than ever, but I confess the content squicks me out. I’m far more interested in this gagging-smart-men thing - I wonder what that feels like for him? I can see it being hotter than hell on both sides of the exchange, that.
July 4, 2007 at 9:35 pm
No really smart guy would have anything to do with the likes of this! All this pseudo intellectuallism is a constant in the S&M world as they try and justify the lifestyle, Jones has already commented on how this wannabe nonsense keeps the prices high for the pro-dommes.
July 4, 2007 at 10:38 pm
As regards piss, it is not unhealthy most of it is just excess water and vitamins that the body doesn’t need, it won’t hurt you and some people think it is healthy to drink their own piss - but they maybe people who drink American beer. For men there is a certain element of marking your own territory that is associated with piss.
July 4, 2007 at 11:09 pm
It is dirtybadwrong.
I love you.
See, when I say something is “dirty,” everyone yells at me and says, “No! It is good. It is healthy. It is squeaky clean fun.”
Maybe so. But I only get off on: It is dirtybadwrong.
July 5, 2007 at 3:16 pm
Only happy when it rains…
July 5, 2007 at 6:14 pm
bitchyjones
July 3rd, 2007 at 7:57 pm
I can kill you with my piss
…. Secret superpowers rock!
July 5, 2007 at 7:50 pm
I am probably wrong, but I suspect that Jones doesn’t like the term “play” because it trivialises something that she feels deeply about and also something that she can’t reconcile herself to. If it is just play, then great - take the money from the fat pale skinned banker that for some reason feels that being hurt helps him deal with his own issues. But if your desire to hurt someone goes deep inside you then you have to wonder why you have this feeling coiled up inside you like a snake.
No matter what any of you say, we all know it is wrong to hurt people, even de’Sade recognised that, (funny how all the pseudo-intellectuals fail to admit that). I guess Jones, (never met her so I might be wrong), is afraid that she might really unleash her sadistic side and genuinely hurt someone. Perhaps because she is not thinking of her victims as a checkbook she is really concerned about them.
July 8, 2007 at 3:43 am
Dear BJ,
I am an older submissive male, married for many years to a woman who is rather kinky in an understated way.
I agree with your insights about “play.” No one who has had several dozen (or more) full –strength whacks of a hardwood paddle to his bare backside would call that paddle a “toy,” and no one who actually just swallowed a pint of hot piss would call that “play,” even if he took perverse pleasure in the act. These things are real to those to whom they are done, and people who must call it play apparently do not understand the meaning of their own behaviors.
Another point I would like to make is that funnels are fine, but submitting without one permits a submissive husband to express his feelings in such a personal way that funnels or other equipment are really superfluous to the transaction, at least to me. Here is the technique which I use to provide good service, often when my wife wants to urinate without getting out of bed and walking to the toilet: After she gets over my face, I open my mouth and “lock” my throat as she begins to empty herself, until my mouth/throat begins to fill to the rim of my lips. Then, just before it overflows, I begin swallowing in glugs at a rate which matches the incoming flow, to keep the “fill” of liquid constant at just below the overflowing level, and to facilitate swallowing with evenly timed swallows. This lets her relieve herself in a continuous steam, without spilling. (The same technique college boys in the U.S. use to “chug-a-lug” a can of beer). When she finishes, I just keep swallowing in glugs until I have consumed it all. She goes back to sleep and I go to clean my mouth and gargle so as not to offend her with my breath.
O.H. (obedient_hubby)
July 8, 2007 at 8:14 am
What a wonderful man you must be!
(Btw - I am sorry if this looks as if it is meant to be sarcastic. Looking back, neurotically, I thought it might. It isn’t, I mean it quite sincerely.)
July 8, 2007 at 11:25 am
This entry is amazing… eloquent and beautiful and hot as hell all wrapped up with a certain whimsy and nostalgia. And you’ve managed to express sentiment about one of my kinks that I have trouble wording.
Thank you.
July 8, 2007 at 11:34 am
You’re welcome
July 8, 2007 at 7:16 pm
Dear BJ,
I appreciate your sincere and kind words. But, for the record, my wife does not always find me so great, and I am subject to frequent criticism and consequences for all kinds of little failures and annoyances, and not so fairly I might add. So please don’t idealize my submission, because it is obviously not adequate.
Also, I meant to tell you that I find your blog to be very deep, and I respect your candor. Your admission of your sadistic impulses is both delightful and frightening at the same time. And your “drowning a man in piss” fantasies are something I share on an erotic level (as opposed to the pure submissive servitude of just opening up and taking it, and relishing the humiliation without becoming aroused). You are a truly wicked person, and you have every right to be proud and shameless in laying it out for your readers! Keep up the good work.
O.H.
July 8, 2007 at 7:24 pm
I love submissive men.
I am going to talk about dark stuff in the next couple of posts.
July 9, 2007 at 5:43 pm
Obedient Husband says “These things are real to those to whom they are done, and people who must call it play apparently do not understand the meaning of their own behaviors.”
I have to disagree. I use and love the word play. And I do understand the meaning of my own behaviors. Calling it “play” is how I give myself permission to do them.
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