August 11, 2007...10:38 pm

Unicornucopia or Why Are All Dominant Women Such Fucking Ass-hats?

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You think I’ve gone soft now I’m in a squishy place with my stable stable of men? Think a-fucking-gain. Everything’s still fucked.

Sometimes I shout at submissive men (you might have noticed). Sometimes I tell them to make everything better. Sometimes I say that they have the money, the power, the hard bodies that they could stop spoiling with frillies. They could fix everything.

And I still say do it, you dirty sexy studs. Go on – fix femdom for me. I’ll slap you round the face later. Promise.

Anyway, sometimes – after one of my informative lectures of this nature - one of my creative consultants comes up to me afterwards to put a towel round my neck and hold a bucket for me to spit into and says,

- That was great, Beej, but next round you have to spank the women?
- I don’t spank women anymore. They don’t have nice scratchy faces. Oh, baby, I love them scratchy faces… And erections…
- Yeah, but, hang on, stop thinking about erections for a minute, Beej. Focus. You know what I mean. Spank the women.
- Yeah, okay, but I do, but I spank the prodoms all the time. I have a specially big stick for them. They love it.
- Yeah, Beej, we’ve kind of noticed you spank prodoms a bit, in fact we’ve been worrying if there might be some kind of Freudian…, forget that, look, don’t you think it’s time to spank the amateurs?
- What the lifestylers? The natural dominant women? The bitches who give it away for free? The unicorns?
- Yeah
- You’re so right. Those bitches have got it coming.

For serious, what’s up with dominant women? I don’t mean me, of course, I’m perfectly splendid. I mean the rest of you.

One day, talking to a famous, gorgeous celebrity-submissive man I know, I said, ‘god, I’m glad I don’t date dominant women, there are only, like, three sane ones.’

And he said, ‘there are three, are you sure?’

I may have counted myself twice. And I’m not even sure if that was an entirely fair assessment.

Look around you. Oh god, dominant women make me so depressed.

Pompous self-important fucking, eurgh. Seriously if there is one thing, just one, I could wipe out of femdom forever it wouldn’t be feminisation or strap ons or the beauty myth, it would be pompous fucking female dominasties. Really and truly. Skin. Crawl.

It’s just fucking embarrassing.

I know that when men say to me, ‘god, you’re so hot’, what they actually mean is ‘god, you’re a dominant woman who does not at first glance appear to be a batshit insane, manipulative, exploitative, ego maniacal bitch’.

I was never a pretty girl. I did not learn to deal with male attention when I was young. I started being a dominant woman when I was about 23. Suddenly having sexual cache when your ideas of your sexual value (and, really, your complete worth as a woman at that age) seemed pretty fixed – is odd.

This kind of male attention, undeserved, unexpected can be hard to deal with without going a little mad. Without becoming a little strange. Personally I think that is why a lot of dom women are a little, um, well, you know, the way they are. Suddenly getting a bunch of attention and nummies you never worked for can make anyone go a little crackpot dictator.

But the thing about free nummies, is that they come in a bundle with the fear that they are going to be taken away someday.

Dominant woman practically clad in armor of fucking arrogance. Never admitting any weakness, never being wrong or foolish or silly or wanting a super-hard super-long fuck that makes them all wet with sweat and noodle-floppy.

Calling themselves ridiculous best-in-show type names like lady and princess and goddess and flip-chart.

Seriously, we can use the mandom-normality-gauge for this one. Is femdom stupid? – convert it into mandom and have a look: A male dom calling himself Lord Geoffrey, or Prince Raymond or God Percy. Would that be stupid. Yes it would. See? We’re being stupid.

Stupid and arrogant and pompous and eurgh. Like we’re so fucking special.

Not just ordinary women. (’Cause – ew, how could them bitches enslave men?)

I hate the fucking uber-femininity. Of it. The fucking corsetry. Or, really, the dragged-up pastichey femininity. I hate the fucking mystique. After the fake hair and fake tits and fake sexualities of the pros this is the second female stereotype of femdom. The sensitive dom. The *sensual* woman. Sorry. Not woman. The *lady*.

Princess, Goddess, Lady. It’s never gender neutral is it?

I get that it’s a reaction in a way. A reaction to the stupid fucking prodom shit. It’s a way of not being the sneery, dreary, never cheery cardboard cut out Miss Pain. Or it’s a reaction to the idea that mandom is the norm. Or that violence is male. Either way, can we say ‘over compensating’?

Also too many dom women over emphasise their femininity because deep down they think being sexually dom isn’t very feminine thing to do.

You know what I mean…But, just, please no with the goddessesiness and the gauze and the candles (we have electricity now, candles are for one thing and one thing only and you *know* what that is – get a fucking dimmer switch and stop being a hazard) and the tinkly wind chimey mysteriousity. It’s women hitting men with stuff. It’s not a Meatloaf video.

I hit men to get off but I can still be a lady. I hate the word lady. And I really hate the word ’sensual’ too ’cause like who isn’t sensual? A deaf, blind anosmiac who has no taste or nerve endings?

But it doesn’t end there with the fucked-up-ness of dominant women, does it?

Uber-femme. Arrogant femininity like a super power is first…

… And then they get hold of the shift key. And next thing you know they’re just a bash of the caps lock away from this. Again, I do satire.

There is no excuse for inventing a form of grammar to try and make out you (or – even worse - your entire gender) are *actually* *superior* to other people, rather than just being turned on by pretending you are while fucking.

We don’t need this shit. We don’t need to be anything more than men and women wired for fun. She’s just an ordinary woman – not a jet powered goddess – he’s just and ordinary man – not a pathetic bag of shit-eating slime.

A man can get on his knees in front of a woman. No previous purchase required. Just that. Just them. Why is this so scary?

Me? I’m a real woman – not a semi-mythical creature. Me. As is. There is nothing particularly special or exotic about me. I don’t float six inches above the ground. And I love real men. You know, other humans. Made of flesh and full of fucked up desires. Just like me. Just as strange as I am.

I’m tired of this shame spiralling. I’m tired of us not treating each other right. If we can’t accept that no matter how sexy inequity is we need to discuss things as equals outside of the fuckabout. We need to strip it down to the humanity.

What do you really think? Deep down. Is a dom’s life worth more than a sub’s?

Down from the pedestals, out of the gutter. If we want equality. If we want femdom to be equal with mandom, if we want kink to be equal with vanilla, whatever… we’ve got to stop acting like pompous tits and worthless gits.

Deep breath – this is big – here is my message to all dominant women: Being turned on by being superior is not the same as actually *being* superior.

IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDER-FUCKING-STAND?

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  • Don’t tell you don’t love those speeches: “ME and My slave,We/we went shopping. he bought ME a necklace I have ordered him to buy ME,because I’M so superior…”,etc

    They’re only matched by ” ME and my pet,We/we went to the pet shop to buy her a dog collar. she was very shy,but didn’t want to disobey ME…”,etc.

    I consider them,not only some very bad students,but also quite…displeasant.

  • I don’t know what’s worse - to have to fuck these people or to have to *be* them.

    Doms - cuh - hanging out with people who tell you you’re always right does nasty things to a person.

  • My concept of masochism doesn’t have space for abuse and I consider that a type of abuse.

    One thing is to dominate,another one trying to diminish the other. Those aren’t dominants,just idiots with issues to solve.

    Concerning female doms,they must actually feel rather bad with their women condition,because most of them pass the time calling their men partners ” girl,whore,etc”. The majority thinks having a penis is the ultimate dom factor,so they spend most their time humiliating those who actually have one.

    Something similar to poor Voldy wanting Lucius’s wand…only I can understand Voldy,somehow.

  • Maybe that’s why I have such negative feelings about submissiveness as a lifestyle, for myself anyway.

    Playing games and doing things for erotic fulfillment is one thing, but I don’t want someone telling me what to do or controlling all aspects of my life 24/7. When everyone’s had their orgasms and things have calmed down, I want to be with someone who I view as an equal, and who views me the same.

    So I just need a woman who will be my partner, an equal, and still get off on being a kinky dominant bitch in the bedroom. Hm, should I hold out for the ability to spin straw into gold too, just to narrow down the millions and millions of possibilities?

  • I’m going to get a button to pin on my shirt:

    “Padlocks,
    Not Capslock”
    Submissive males for gramatically correct dominants.

    If only I were a little more hardcore, I could pierce my nipple and wear it that way.

  • This just in:

    I have become an official BJ Blog Character. I am humbled! Or possibly puffed up, not sure which, but given the topic at hand, I’m going to go with humbled.

    (If the Blog Characters are ever made in to action figures, I would like final approval on the protype, please.)

    Okay, I googled to find a quote I was half remembering, and finally found it. Pretty much sums it for me:

    We have, I fear, confused power with greatness.
    Stewart L. Udall, commencement address, Dartmouth College, June 13, 1965

    I believe the full quote is, “We have, I fear, confused power with greatness, you fucking ass-hats.”

    hugs, E

  • hanging out with people who tell you you’re always right does nasty things to a person.

    Oh, I dunno… people are always telling me that, and it hasn’t changed my outlook at all.

    No, it’s true. At least a dozen times a day, after I make a pronouncement on some topic or other, somebody will tell me “Yeah, right, Tom.”

  • (If the Blog Characters are ever made in to action figures, I would like final approval on the protype, please.)

    Oooh! Oooh! Can I help with the design? ‘cos I’ve got some ideas on how femdommy women should be costu…ack!

  • “It’s not a Meatloaf video.”

    heh…

    “…we’ve got to stop acting like pompous tits and worthless gits.”

    I used to have a pair of pompous tits…but I have had a reduction…

    splorfle…

    You have seriouly made my day Bitchy.

  • Actually, even though we don’t talk about it much in our little slice of the blogosphere, the maledom community is just as fucked up as the femdom community. Case in point, I can think of three people who I know “in real life” who are male and use honorifics such as in your examples.

    (I’m the one who uses God.)

  • I know one God Todd, several lords and sirs, and the best cake-winner of all maledom title asshattery?

    Sir Spankenstine.

    I am afraid this is a much bigger problem. I weep, I truly do. There is a REASON I require my subs call me Miss Lotus. Not ma’am, madam, goddess, grand poobah, queen, empress, countessa, or any of the rest of the goofy ass things people say.

    I’m just a girl. A girl who likes to hit men until they cry. This does not make me a deity.

  • Lotus said:

    I know one God Todd

    You know Todd Rundgren??

    (’kay, if you are dom and named Todd, God Todd is a particularly embarrassing choice, unless you *are* Todd Rundgren, in which case, I’ll throw you a bow, too.)

  • This is definitely thought-provoking, but only partly matches my experience. I only know a few female doms. One is a pro but, outside of her pro life, dresses like a totally ordinary person and isn’t feminine in either domain. Another treats most everyone like dirt, but her submissives (male and female) seem content and happy, so I tell myself it’s hard to know what someone is like behind closed doors. (She’s feminine but not girlish or mystical.) Another is a very natural-seeming woman I admire and have a little crush on.

    My worry about being a dom is that it’ll exacerbate some of my worst qualities, like being irritable and snarking at people. It’s difficult not to be an asshole when you’re allowed to be. My only hope is that having a little power will free me from a position of powerlessness-based nagging and griping.

    Titles wise, I know a Lady and two Mistresses, but there are plenty of Masters and Sirs around. (And by “Sirs” I don’t mean guys who make their subs call them “Sir,” of course, but guys who go around as Sir So-and-so.) I’ve decided to view this as pageantry rather than as an affront to all that is right and holy.

    I can’t imagine introducing myself to someone as “Mistress Such-and-such” just because I conned one guy into calling me mistress, though. It seems a bit much. But ask me again in 20 years, should I continue to be this lucky.

  • There is *some* entitlement going on in master-sir-mandom, it’s true, but I have found mandoms to generally be more likely to have a sense of humour about themselves. (possibly they have to work harder to be non-threatening)

    Mandom is pretty fucked up - especially certain corners. But I just don’t think it’s as bad. And I think this is mainly due to the female submissives - who, unlike male submissives, do at least talk to each other.

  • Hello Beej,

    Thanks for another interesting post. :) I do enjoy reading about your rants and your happy moments too. :)

    I like the term “respectful” rather than “equal”.

    If I responded to everyone I met as if they were an albino Mongolian woman with flatulence and a chicken fetish, then that would be “equal”, in my view.

    If I responded to everybody I met according to their personal needs and boundaries, then that would be “respectful”, according to my definition.

    I agree that the idea of discussing things with respect for everybody’s needs is A Good Thing(tm).

    I don’t want equality. I want equivalent treatment, and equal respect for my needs.

    Best regards,

    Lubyanka. :)

  • I don’t want equality. I want equivalent treatment, and equal respect for my needs.

    I use the word equality to mean, broadly, equality of opportunity

  • (I’m the one who uses God.)

    I’m looking forward to you starting your own religious cult, May. When it happens can I be one of your wives?

    About fourth or fifth one down the hierarchy should suit me. I need plenty of free time for blogging

  • I’m looking forward to you starting your own religious cult, May. When it happens can I be one of your wives?

    Hey, me too?

    And put me after Beej. I need plenty of free time for, uh, blog commenting.

  • I imagine (not to preempt May, obviously) that wives higher up the hierarchy would be able to boss around lowlier wives and, you know, make them toil in fields and stuff.

  • *winces*

    Damn, I didn’t think that one through.

  • Ha E, being an official BJ Blog Character is lots of fun.

    I like to think of my life as slowly sliding into being a story by Borges at the moment. And that guy was cool.

    In relation to this post here - I think a lot of this stuff, the pomposity, the ritual and the self-absorbtion and from the other side the patheticness (and the simpering..) is the reason I haven’t explored this stuff before. They are not attractive stereotypes and unless you look closer you don’t see or realise that there can be just real people relating as real people do - which is what I like.

    I understand why the masks though - it’s hard, I guess, to admit that you want this stuff. And if you do, it’s so much easier to passively accept a role - to live a stereotype - rather than trying to be real and risk possibly revealing ‘too much.’

    It’s true what Bitchy said about not floating when she walks, I’ve seen it.
    I grant I’ve never seen a goddess go;
    but Bitchy, when she walks, treads on the ground.

    Also, what Vague said.

  • Ha. Well, I’m glad you didn’t take this opportunity to point out what a pompous ass-hat I am.

    I love My Mistress’s Eyes Are Nothing Like the Sun. It’s my favourite by that bloke what done good with words.

  • That bloke he am good.
    I like him - at least.
    It’s one of my favourites too. It’s been on my mind a little since you asked me which my favouritest one was and I couldn’t say.
    It’s up there.

  • Do you know this one? It’s not by Shakespeare. I really like it.

    Flowers by Wendy Cope

  • That’s lovely.

  • I’m rather partial to Leonard Cohen myself…

    I’m Your Man

  • I really like the Wham song with that title. It is my favourite Wham song

    I love this too.

    Dirty messed-up romance is my biggest fetish

    This is my favourite Leonard Cohen song

  • He softened it a little from the album version I have (it has “Give me crack, and anal sex…), still a great song though.

    How do you feel about Scissor Sisters / Doctor Who mashups? Not overtly sexual, but it does have men in suits and some interesting lyrics. Spoilers for Doctor Who as well.

    Links, some NSFW language.

  • It’s a lovely version though. A little clean up for the BBC I think. (And anal sex is not so much my big thing anyway - I think I might actually prefer careless sex in a straight choice sort of thing. I am good at being careless.)

    As for Doctor Who - OMG! - no man alive has ever satisfied me like Russell T Davies. This is lovely. I don’t much care about the Scissor Sisters, but this worked for me.

  • Man with a large, hard bonespur
    August 12, 2007 at 10:35 pm

    Being turned on by being superior is not the same as actually *being* superior.

    Yes, but why would you entertain this thought if it killed your libido and inhibited your lifestyle? The above thought may depress people because it drubs the fun out of their play.

  • Yes, but why would you entertain this thought if it killed your libido and inhibited your lifestyle? The above thought may depress people because it drubs the fun out of their play.

    Because it doesn’t have to kill your libido or inhibit your lifestyle, but it will always be a lot more damaging than just killing libido or inhibiting a person’s lifestyle to a lot of people (probably including you, but whatever) if you don’t understand the difference.

    That should be pretty fucking obvious, too, but clearly there are a lot of really stupid (and some not so stupid) or maybe just plain oblivious people who don’t seem to get it.

  • I did think that putting the final line of this post in caps was overkill (and mistress-lash-ish)

    Guess not

  • Yes, but why would you entertain this thought if it killed your libido and inhibited your lifestyle?

    It’s more important to be a decent human being with an understanding of reality than it is to be turned on. If entertaining a thought is hurting your sexuality, then I think you should seriously rethink your sexuality a bit.

  • I’ve listened that poem “My mistress…” said by Alan Rickman,but,after few seconds,I forgot giving attention to the words…the same happens with Cohen and Jason Isaacs,who could perfectly read the phonebook and make it hot.

    I’m happy they’re too old for me,or I’d may feel the temptation of using caps when referring to them.

    I usually laugh at the doms who use caps,but the fact is,as a masochist,I tend to understand the fun of it,for us. It’s a tad arrogant,actually,because we’re almost claiming we only bottom to someone close to a god ( hence the caps) and nothing less. And that’s arrogantly sexy.

  • Sorry I’m a little late to the party but, god woman, you write it as it is. The whole “I am superior because of my gender” thing is beyond stupid and I’m so glad someone has finally written what I believe (as you can tell I’m not that good at it). As one female dom to another, I’m reading and learning. Keep it up (so to speak!).

  • I won’t stop until the job is done. It’s a life sentence isn’t it?

    You know I never meant for me to fix this crap. I’m a naturally pathologically lazy. But look at me now.

  • As for Doctor Who - OMG! - no man alive has ever satisfied me like Russell T Davies.

    Interesting. I’d have had you figured for the David Tennant groupie.
    ‘course, I am, myself, mind.

  • At last, Jones rants again! good stuff - but now you are picking on the non-pro female dommes. Pretty soon you are going to run out of people to rage against, then what?
    I have never met a male dom, (as far as I am aware), and the few female dommes I have encountered seemed to be professional but as far as feeling superior goes…doesn’t everyone? I mean I don’t feel superior because of my gender. I dont just feel superior to women, I pretty much feel superior to everyone.
    As for this whole, fantasy play thing… I get it, it is just a fantasy. None of this is real, and yet everyone takes their kinks and sex lives so seriously. I can’t help feeling that no matter how well adjusted everyone who reads this site is, there may be some people out there who lose the distinction between reality and fantasy and unfortunately you cannot filter out what they get out of your blogs.

  • “I hate the fucking uber-femininity. Of it. The fucking corsetry. Or, really, the dragged-up pastichey femininity. I hate the fucking mystique. After the fake hair and fake tits and fake sexualities of the pros this is the second female stereotype of femdom. The sensitive dom. The *sensual* woman. Sorry. Not woman. The *lady*.

    Princess, Goddess, Lady. It’s never gender neutral is it?”

    Yes. YES. I hate that shit.

  • I am a lucky man. The lady I serve is a great Mistress. But she is smart and sane and sober and loved by all. Deservedly so.

  • OK. Confession time. I’m one of those guys who enables this crap.

    There’s a line in a David Foster Wallace book that applies here… something like “Tell me the kind of man you’re attracted to and I’ll endeavour to imitate that man”. I think that’s what’s going on here.

    When it comes to a woman who even hints that she might be dominant, I go completely doolally. Self respect gets checked at the door, along with judgement, the awareness of possible mental health issues and anything that comes between me and the possibility of a woman doing rude, rude things.

    This is even worse with people like me whose starting point with Femdom is the internet and our own fantasies- I get to measure my behaviour by strange chatroom etiquette, incredibly varied demands in alt.com profiles and a few videos made by english mansion and men in pain.

    I suspect that basing my flirtation with dominant women on these reference points is not a recipe for successful social intereaction… but christ, I’m an ignoramous mostly hoping not to make an utter fool of myself… so I plead ignorance, not malignity!

  • Britspit, that book - Infinite Jest - is my favourite book of all time. I’m just saying is all.

  • Jack.

    That book is a thousand pages long and insanely complex. To remember that line is ludicrously good. You are DFW (or Stephen Elliot, Or Dave eggers) and I claim my free subscription to mcsweeneys.

    But I win despite all that, because “A supposedly fun thing that I’ll bever do again”, is clearly a superior work of art.

  • Fuck - sorry - Britspin… god sorry

  • Yeah. Leave your spittle flecked fetishes out of it.

    Uh.. I’ve just got to pop out for a moment to think about that.

  • I was apologising for calling you Britspit by accident (if that wasn’t clear).
    I’m not DFW - or Eggers, or even Stephen Elliot.
    But I’d be a happy happy man if I could write like them.
    If there are free subscriptions to McSweeneys going, I want one. The new one with the 3 slim volumes magnetically bound into the cover is so fucking beautiful (just as an object - I don’t have it yet).

    And twice in this comment thread I’ve derailed the discourse from insane dominant women - sorry.

  • I’m with you. on the mcsweeneys. I was a subscriber. Ended up not subscribing because the packaging was so pretty I could barely bring myself to read the stories.

    My favourite is no. 16. It is a sloth bound box, with trees printed on it. Inside there is a giant pack of playing cards with a shuffaleble story and a comb. I always need a comb in an enexpected place.

    As for the insane dominant women. I’m not sure. I think it’s a double bind. When you realise you’re sub or Dom, what reference points do you get? For me it was the avengers and a very weird fantasy about being kidnapped and kept in an emptied swimming pool by about twenty avenger clad women. I don’t think I ever got any options showing dominant women without PVC and leather. At least not until Prime suspect came along, but that’s a whole diffeent kettle of fish.

    I guess nobody else did either.

  • It’s true there don’t seem to be paths to follow - except to keep your head on straight and remember it’s all just folks.
    I had a similar fantasy - though it wasn’t a pool, it was a cave - where do you get this stuff when you’re a kid? Also they weren’t PVC clad. Everyone was nakey. It’s never been so much about the clothes - not that I mind the clothes either.

    And Prime Suspect? Helen Mirren? I still would.

  • I know a good many dominant Women sorry women who do not consider themselves dominas,dominatrixes etc.What they know is how to be confident strong people first.The fact that they are more rounded people i.e females who discuss their inner emotions and turmoils more does not stop them from being in a position of strength and being “grounded”.
    So out there are litterally millions of dominant sane women with their heads screwed on.
    And once we get the matriarchy that the world deserves instead of in pockets and individual families you will not be able to go 5 feet without bumping into a sane dominant woman.

  • Can I vote no on the matriachy. The last thing I want is the ass-hats at the reigns.

  • Also, being a confident strong person is not the same thing as being a dom. Being a feminist is not the same thing as being a dom. Even a (stupid) belief in matriarchy does not make you a dom. Being a dom is a sexual kink. Duh.

  • Ahh…. well I wouldn’t want you to think I was obsessed about PVC. I also spent a significant amount of my early teen years wishing I’d been the one the Ice Queen fed doctored turkish delight to.

    I would have betrayed those pesky upper class brats in an instant. I don’t think C S Lewis had that audience in mind though, as she wasn’t in any of the sequels.

    You’re right about the just folks thing… I think with me it was very much… Gosh, I really want this badwrongthing done to me. Hmmm who seems to get away with doing badwrongthings. evil, pvc clad, fur wearing, faun torturing, whip wielding bond villanesses. Well in that casen that’s who I fancy… because they do the badwrongthings…..

  • Uhhh.. just to clarify.. although the Ice queen isn’t in any of the sequels, she is in the prequel, the magicians nephew. and what she does in that book is… hot.

  • No ass-hat nation!

    I seem to recall having a similar reaction to the Ice Queen putting (Edmund? Edward? - I don’t remember: I was very, very young when I read those books) into her power.

    Yeah - that was hot.

    I’ve been cross-talking a lot here - this isn’t my blog.

  • Blog, salon, what’s the diff?

    Just lay off the limericks, even you aren’t sexy enough to get away with that forever.

  • Limericks? *it’s so hard not to pun*

    Anyway the difference between a blog and a salon is that at a salon you got served tea. Err. Not by naked men or anything. Just by servants.

    And Hello, Bridjet by the way. Your blog is superb. I’ll stop there because it’s dangerous for me to flatter to much. I get all greasy, and begin to resemble Uriah Heep, and there’s always that sense of “oh, and what do you really want, you irksome lickspittle, you” from anyone who can see through the unctuousness.

    Though perhaps I read too much into it, at that.

  • Bridjet? I don’t know. I just confuse myself sometimes.

  • I thought it was a joke I didn’t understand.

    Thanks for liking my blog. If you are worried about sounding obsequious, the phrase, ‘you are a genius’ goes a long way.

    As Jack knows

  • I think my thought process went… BitchyJones, bridget jones, BJ, Bridjet Jones, … err… It’s a mystery to me, my mind.

    I don’t know. Genius always seems a little small to me. When the romans wnet round deifying their partners/parents/lovers/children. Not that was a compliment.

  • There are so many awesome literary references oh my god *explode*

    I always thought what the Ice Queen did to Mr. Tumnus was far hotter than that brat Edmund getting drugged up and having his moral crisis. Because with the forced arrest, and the prison, and the turning to stone . . . Oh man, I so wanted to have the power to turn people into stone.

    I am possibly a bit too obsessed with non-con at the moment.

  • Britspin -

    If you can find a word bigger than “genius”, that will work well, too.

    Mostly I use “brilliant”. Got me a BFF designation and everything.

    Plus, there’s talk of an action figure, but shhhh, that’s not definite yet.

  • I’m with you on sooo much of this.

    The fake hair, fake tits, fake shiny plastic Domme action figuresque monkey poo… yes… all icky and should be laughed at.

    The ‘BOW B4 ME LOOOOSER, I M GODESS XXX HERE ME RAWER’… ridiculous and I always assume it’s satire. How could one take it seriously (unless you’re a sub on a mental vacation while mr. happy takes the reins for a moment, evidently) is beyond me.

    But I’m going to have to say pfffttt to some of your rant.

    I LIKE femininity. It’s… um… kinda tied into that part of me that I like… the… uh… (do I have to point this out?)… FEMININE part of me? And femininity can encompass alot of stuff… (do I HAVE to point this out???) including what is feminine to someone that might not be to others.

    i.e. I know a rather butchish lesbian who wears men’s workboots and makes them seem feminine. We’re women… we GET to be difficult like that.

    I’m so sick of everyone (yes, you too bitchy, and I have a strange cyberblogcrush on you, or at least your brain… but I think you, too!) trying to tell me what I should and shouldn’t do and how it’s all so fucking damaging to everyone if I do this or that…

    … and it’s all contradictory. Because everyone has their opinions. And opinions are great, it’s when they get to be some sort of “all REAL so-and-so’s (fill in domme, women, subs, whatever) should be like _____ (fill in your opinion here)” that it starts feeling like b.s..

    Also, I know exactly what you mean (I think) about the fitting a certain mold of what is feminine or hot or hawt or whatever… there’s a certain sort of bottom dwelling critter in chat rooms around the www that love to tell every woman who doesn’t look like a stripper in bondage gear they aren’t “pretty enuf” (sic) to be a domme. It’s beyond silly. But let’s not get carried away and make it sound BAD to be attractive.

    Which leads me to my next point…

    With an intermission for this, I seem to remember you like long comments. Which is good… I seem to have alot to say about this hahaha….

    I am one of those people who talk about how fabulous I am from time to time. You’d hate me… well you’d love me actually, I’m quite lovable in an evil-why-the-hell-do-I-love-this-sadistic-bitch kinda way… but you’d hate THIS part of me.

    I have been known to talk about how smart and funny and attractive I am. *everyone faint and get upset now… but wait… it gets worse* AND I can justify it…

    I think that it’s just plain silly how we are conditioned to look at this stuff in western societies, could be all societies but I’m only really familiar with the western ones…

    If you are girl, you’re supposed to adopt an aw, shux, no mentality of self-abasement about your good qualities.

    Females in our society are bred for insecurity.
    It’s considered “bad” to think you are pretty, or smart, or funny, or anything. Self-deprecation has been raised to an art form.

    Complimented on your dress? Appropriate answer: “What this old thing?”
    Told that you’re pretty? Appropriate answer: “Shut up! No I’m not, you’re pretty!”
    Complimented on your body? Appropriate answer: “With these fat thighs?”
    Told that you’re smart? Appropriate answer: “No, I’m not!”
    Etc..

    I suspect you know exactly what I’m talking about. Some men do this as well, it’s true. But think about the men who do (i.e. Woody Allen, et. al.). These men are… what? That’s right, they are considered effeminate. Why is that? Because low self-esteem and self-deprecation is a female quality.

    Manly men, real men, are confident. Arrogance gets them the promotion. Gets them laid. And it doesn’t matter if the arrogance is warranted or not. They can be ugly, not so bright, nothing that is apparent to the eye to even make the arrogance make sense. But how are they seen? As confident.

    Vanity is a crime if you are female.

    Guess who loves to break society’s rules when she thinks they are full of shit?

    Uh huh. Me!

    So, while I was growing up a clever girl (*gasp* *shock* *shudder* “did she just compliment herself???? what the fuck is WRONG with her????”) and noticing how perfectly incomprehensible and idiotic it was to see pretty women “aw shux, no I’m not” their way out of admitting they were pretty, I didn’t join in.

    And, yes, I did think I was so clever. Is that BAD? And, yes, I did think I was great. Is that so wrong?? I technically have a decent IQ, I’m supposed to pretend like I’m stupid so someone else feels better?

    And, yes, I did think I was pretty. I hope I would have thought that no matter WHAT I looked like. Shouldn’t everyone????!!!!

    So not only did I refuse to buy into a socially adopted mythology that I found stupid (it’s called critical thinking… everyone should try it sometime), BUT I also actually enjoy the shock people have when I am NOT putting myself down.

    Am I really the only fucking one who sees the entire self-deprecating, self-minimalizing, underachieving culture as IDIOTIC?? I mean, I’m cool with that and everything, but what a stupid thing it seems.

    Does the fact that I know I’m attractive and intelligent and funny and many other great qualities mean I think I’m THE most attractive, most intelligent, most funny, MOST anything? Not particularly, but then again I’m not in some competition. I’m just me. (everyone should try being themselves, too, sometime… also fun)

    And I’m not going to fake modesty, or worse, adopt fake modesty as how I really feel about myself so that I can join the sheep drive towards self-help books to recover my lost self-esteem. I don’t want to blame it on anyone. No one stole my self-esteem because I didn’t let them.

    Erm…. off on a bit of a rant there… I do that (and I also think THAT is fabulous!) …

    So… while I get what you are saying here, and yes, the stupidity can be overwhelming… and the plastidomme weirdness online is ODD and it would be great if it all went *poof*… let’s not throw out the females with the bath water…

    Some of the difficult complexity of femininity? Is pretty fucking fabulous in my book. And I don’t think IT is trying to make anyone else feel like less of a woman or anything… there is room in the vast arena of kink and kinky sex and d/s and s/m and all the goodies for each individual and their own, individual stuff!

    (… except the daddy-doms, those fuckers creep me the fuck out… oooops! hypocrisy alert? oh, well. )

  • Britspin -

    Beej has a soft spot for limericks. Write a few about her, and she’ll melt. I’m tellin’ ya.

  • Britspin,

    Jack’s not me, and probably not DFW either since DFW doesn’t use the internet. And Bitchy called me gorgeous. Woo hoo!

    stephen

  • You are gorgeous.

    And Jack is just Jack. And that is just fine.

  • Sue,

    I had to read your comment twice to make sure I didn’t actually write it myself. It represents so very well how I feel about this topic. It said so much that I agree with, I’m incredibly glad I’m not the only one. I can’t tell you how glad. :)

    ( I just read it again, just to make sure, again, that I really didn’t write that )

    Yes, I too am a fan of her beej-ness’s mind, and I too wonder where other people get off trying to tell me that what anybody chooses to be or do is crap (or any of their business, as long as it’s consensual). I mean, here I am getting it from all sides, from mandom, from submissives of any gender, and now from dominant women too. I’m a dominant woman and I’m not supposed to enjoy or play around with the “woman” part of that? Some of us will simply just never be allowed to exist, it would seem.

    I can’t get my head round why anything we consensually do is anything to do with anybody else. Why is how we choose to dress, or interact with consenting people, anything to do with anybody but ourselves? Why is the way I think being fought over as if it were the last doughnut on the bakery shelf? How does any of that impact on anybody else?

    I agree that being turned on by feeling superiour is not the same as actually being superiour.

    So?

    If it’s so important for my thinking to be changed in favour of others, why is my agreement being sought by telling me that some of the things I consensually enjoy are, by definition, crap? Why would I buy into that?

    I can’t see how it would benefit anybody for me to turn around and say “Oh, yes, you’re right, who I am is really rotten, I’d better change straight away into something more like you”.

    And even though I don’t think most of this post applies to me, enough of it does so that I wonder why anybody being addressed this way would pay it any notice at all?

    ( disregarding the fact that I’m paying it any notice at all )

    Her beej-ness said:

    I’m tired of us not treating each other right.

    Me too. I think this post is a case in point.

    *gets out the armour to prepare for rebuttals*

  • Stephen,

    I should have known that. Not enough footnotes on the internet.*

    As for compliments, Merely one word is insufficient. Perhaps a limerick?

    There was a young Dom called beej
    whose brain sent ‘em weak at the knees
    when men she’d corrupt
    she refused to dress up
    she just grabbed em and viciously squeezed.

    Finally returning to the point… I once had a girlfriend who told me she would prefer it if I made more of an effort to look good when out with her. (I’m a bit of a scruff). I was mortall,y mortally offended. (I’m also a bit annoying)

    On reflection, what she was saying was “please look nice for me…” rather than “you don’t look good enough for my social circle”, which is how in interpreted it.

    So.. In my view there’s a world of difference in dressing up to look good for yourself or to make someone you care about happy- and doing it because you have to do it to fit in.

    I’d never in my life choose to wear tight pvc shorts and a leather harness, for example, but might take pleasure in doing it for someone who would really enjoy it. I’d be really pissed off if i had to wear the same outfit to go clubbing though.

    * Just to say that it is OK to take cheap shots like this at whose talent you are utterly and completely envious of, because in this case the mockery is in itself a form of compliment. Though unfortunately you have to be clear that the mockery is a compliment rather than stupid critcism, hence this footnote**

    ** Which in itself is also a kind of tribute.

  • I make Pan dress up quite a lot. I’ve bought you a present

    Is it another jockstrap off Ebay?

    Kinda

    Oh *and* Jack. Jack wears suits. How could I forget.

    As for the limerick. Tom Allen will be along soon to give it the attention it deserves

  • I suppose I’m using dressing up as shorthand for

    “all the things that are tacked on to the hitting men with stuff world, but somehow appear to be integral to it, and make you feel out of place if you don’t embrace them”

    So for me, that includes. Tight PVC, leather, calling people Goddess/Mistress/Queen of the OompaLoompas, tattoos with slave numbers and fricking barcodes. (I dunno,. Tattoos make me queasy) and a dozen other things. Like being a piece of furniture. I mean, surely that’s not much fun. Just being a lightshade?

    Each of these, with the exception of tattoos, I might embrace by choice or through persuasion. (”how long do I have to stand here with the light- shade on my head, O Oompa Loompa empress?”)- but the thought that I’m not really submissive unless I’m checking all the boxes to start off with would annoy me beyond measure.

    It seems wierd given that y’know it’s dominant women we’re talking about, that this pressure to conform is much, much greater for you than it is for me.

    It’s not the dressing up or the self aggrandising that’s bad… I mean you can’t fancy the Ice Queen without likeing a bit of self aggrandising now and then, for recreational prurposes. It’s the conformity that kills. All together now.. we’re all individuals…

  • Well there’s an interesting thing about male submissives - you’re pretty much ignored. Even most femdom porn is F/f.

    Being ignored sucks of course, but there are some advantages, the biggest one being you get far less ‘you are meant to be *this*’ messages from the media. You don’t have angst about the way you are represented if you are barely represented at all.

    This is a sort of backhanded bonus of disenfranchisement that has been written about by woah cleverer than me people.

    Beej

  • That’s true. I can be submissive in my pants and no-one would mind.

    (they’re not pants though, just black jockey shorts. I don’t wear pants.)

  • This pic demomstrates the issue perfectly

    Here we see typical femdom (note clothing!), typical femsub (note clothing!!), typical mandom (Note clothing!!!!!!) and typical mansub - i.e. totally absent

    BJ

  • As for compliments, Merely one word is insufficient. Perhaps a limerick?

    *sniggers*

    I am so loving this.

    * ahem*

    You don’t have angst about the way you are represented if you are barely represented at all.

    Beej, that presents its own problems. Malesubbinessism represented in the mass media is almost always humiliating and played for laughs at the expense of the sub. If femsubinessism were so portrayed, women’s groups would be picketing theaters (not talking about p0rn, but mainstream media).

    The reason that your picture does not show malesubiness is because nobody wants to see overweight middle-aged men groveling in panties. Unfortunately, if they showed a character dressed any other way, nobody would know what the hell he was supposed to represent.

  • Limericks. They’re a little like ‘tributes’… in a way.

  • Bitchy, that picture is too, too perfect. How ever did you find it? Oh my god. I especially love how the male dom is dressed. For serious. I may need to steal the photo and your comments (with full attribution, natch) for my own blog.

  • How did I find it? I work my fat arse off for you people, that’s how.

    Actually it is not that hard to find a pic like that. Sadly.

    You can take anything from my blog, comment, mix it up, whatever you please, so long as you attribute it to me and don’t make money off it

    BJ x

  • Oxfam update:

    Bitchy, do you remember the little subby I had tributing Oxfam in your honor? He “broke” last night and couldn’t stop begging (which racked up his running total of “Donate to wank” amount)…. and sent Oxfam $425!!!

    I got an email this morning that said, “i feel oddly righteous this morning, as though my pleasure finally did some good in the world.” hahahaha I found that cute!

  • Eek!

    Um, I mean, good, good.

    (Eek!)

  • $425? Great, now my hand is going to be jealous…

    “You never even take me to dinner. And when was the last time you bought new gloves? Would it kill you to moisturize once in awhile?”

  • BJ -

    I have a new money making scheme of Oxfam. Give the posts away for free, but get people to pay to comment, and then pay again to read the comments.

    This time, I am the brilliant one, thank you very much.

    Sure, at first everybody would be like, no, no, I’m not going to pay to comment on this blog ’cause I can comment for free on other people’s blogs….but next thing you know, the urge would build up (commenting in your presence and all) and soon they’d be begging to comment, and you could just rack up the Oxfam money left and right.

    Possibly a present or two for yourself, if you felt like treating yourself.

    You can thank me later. (I would like free comment access and a new DVD player, one of those that store a whole bunch of DVDs at the same time.)

    E

  • My comment threads are getting kind of popular. But I like them very much and money changes thing. Warps them.

    I like my blog pure

  • The reason that your picture does not show malesubiness is because nobody wants to see overweight middle-aged men groveling in panties.

    Not that I’m capable of being one of Elizabeth’s Tuesday Treats or anything…

    Unfortunately, if they showed a character dressed any other way, nobody would know what the hell he was supposed to represent.

    …oh. Good point. I’m only 23 and usually wear girl’s jeans and an H&M button-down. Clearly I must be flaming gay.

  • You are a *bit* flaming gay…

  • Also has she *said* you can’t be a Tuesday treat. She has kind of, uh, eclectic taste.

    *cough*Mac man*cough*

  • You are a *bit* flaming gay…

    If by flaming gay you mean sexy and want to get fucked by men, then yes. :)

    She has kind of, uh, eclectic taste.

    *cough*Mac man*cough*

    *cough*Line-writing-fantasizer*cough*

  • Er… somehow Beej and May have spliced my comments to E with a nonexistent post on my blog and are discussing them here.

    Quite understandable, of course, as my blog is often confused with Bitchy’s or E’s because of all the manly eye-candy I post and my world-famous semi-drunken rants about strap-ons. And I’m often mistaken for May because of my own flaming gay antics like wearing women’s jeans to cover my skinny behind.

    But as E has mentioned that the Tuesday Treats are supposed to be fantasy fodder, May and I are probably doomed to posting our pics on, say “Am I Hot of Not?” instead of given the proper exposure that we so deserve.

    I’m just sayin’, you know?

  • I dunno, Tom, Maymay makes pretty regular apearences in *my* fantasies. I’ll throw you in too, if you’d like, but I warn you there is significantly less cushy field-slave work and significantly more screaming.

    Steve Jobs is a sexy, sexy man. I am perverted too.

    I think I shall start a campaign to collect and post pictures of hot, sexy submissive men wearing low-cut blue jeans and soaking wet white buttondown shirts. With enough pictures collected, perhaps someday I shall influence the image of the world.

    Or I will just have an amazing porn collection. Either way, I win.

  • Or I will just have an amazing porn collection. Either way, I win.

    I already have an amazing porn collection. The most amazing thing about it is that all its content is tagged with keywords. Yes, one of the keywords I have is “denim.”

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