March 30, 2008...3:10 pm
Professional Dominatrix Memoir Book Club
So, prodoms, huh? You might think I talk about them too much. But every time I flick through some kinky magazine in search of kneeling, sneering, shavenheaded butch there they are thrusting their latex clad rentable boobies at me.
Really I’d leave them alone if they left me alone – but that doesn’t really look very likely. My culture is built from them – you can’t blame me for taking an interest in the way they have been elected to represent me.
And they confuse me.
One minutes prodoms are telling me to stop making out that they are not really into it (that they are a ‘male manufactured joke’) because of how so they *so* are into it really and I am a big meany liar to suggest they ever do anything just for the money because ‘cha know, in prodom it isn’t the customer paying the vendor for what the customer wants it is the customer paying the vendor to do what the vendor wants to do. It’s like prodom, aktchoooli is a whole new branch of economics.
Domintrixonomics. Or something.
But just when I am about to send a paper to The Made Up London Journal of New Branches of Economics, pros change their tune and pop up in magazines with delights like this:
Mistress Absolute maintains a persistent belief in the fem dom ideal and, somewhat controversially, argues that Masters cannot achieve the same level of domination because they are controlled by their sexual urges. ‘I’m going to go on record and say that there’s no such thing as a male dom, because they think with their cocks. For most masters I’ve come across it’s all about sex. That’s where women differentiate from men, as women don’t have to have that. You can get your rocks off with more of a mind buzz than just getting your end away. I don’t offer any sexual services at all. For most male “masters” it’s all about getting your cock sucked.’
God. I’m confused. I thought prodoms were controlled by their sexual urges and it was mean to say they weren’t. (Also I thought prodoms *did* get their cocks sucked. In fact haven’t we seen this same prodom elsewhere sporting a vile rubber cock?)
But anyway, what is this mind buzz of which she speak? Huh? Mind buzz? Mind? Buzz? MIND? BUZZ?
MIND?
BUZZ?
Perhaps that is a new way of saying ‘tribute!’ But I like to think the ‘buzz’ is the feeling pros get when they lie back and imagine the fabulous and original cover (thigh boots - catsuit) that their inevitable prodom memoir book will have.
Remember when I wrote:
The shelves in the erotica section of my local Borders is thick with the memoirs of professional dominatrixes, but no memoirs of anyone like me. And no matter how much these women with the memoirs out love it they *are* getting paid. And that’s just different to doing something for love. It just is.
Remember when I wrote:
All those fucking lazy salacious tell all memoir type books about how I was forced to become a professional dominatrix so I had something to write a lazy salacious tell all memoir type book about.
Oh, prodom memoirs can there ever be too few? In order to answer this question I’ve been doing some reading. Well I have a boyfriend with a nice speaking voice so, really, I have mostly been doing listening.
Before he went away forever. And ever. And ever. (Or for a week in real terms.) Jack read to me out of an awful dominatrix memoir book I bought – thinking it might be useful ‘research’ for this ‘blog’. It’s awful. It makes me think I needn’t have written any of the stuff I have on this blog over the last year because this book just proves every last damn point merely by existing.
It’s called Princess Spider. It’s one of the ones I link to above. I bought it at random so perhaps we can consider it a typical example.
This ‘author’ is apparently she is the greatest professional dominatrix in London. Which surely makes her far meaner to prodoms than me when she cheerfully then writes like this:
You’re trampling the slave. It’s a bit like ball kicking. You walk all over them. I wouldn’t walk on anybody’s front while wearing sharp heels, maybe a low stilletto or a chunky heel. But I’ll walk all over your back in high heels. Or you can do it barefoot, or stockings, or tights, for a more sensual experience. They like to see your painted toenails over your balls and cock or face and chest. I probably wouldn’t do a full hour of trampling, but mix it up with other fetishes. Smothering perhaps. They are very particular about the shoes they want you in. Mules or stilettoes. And they’ll specify Cuban stockings. They know in a very detailed way how they want you. It makes for a very interesting wardrobe, anyway.
Jesus. No wonder asshats like all that CAPSLOK protcol. Something very horrid happens when they are left alone with real live pronouns. That mess of a paragraph was taken from a real professionally published book, btw.
My favourite part, though, was the deranged appendix entitled ‘Slave Power Breakdowns’. (What does this even mean?)
It is illustrated with a perplexing diagram, which I reproduce here:
Financial slave ——– Pain slave ——– Escort slave
Maid slave ———— Adult baby ——- Foot slave
Boot slave ————-Postal slave ——- Sissy slave
Text slave ———— Email slave ——– Phone slave
Slave in training ——- Scene slave ——- Newbie slave
My favourite is ‘Postal slave’. I think I know how he feels.
If you would like to recommend (or, un-reccommend) any professional dominatrix memoirs to The Beej and Jack (and maybe Pan if he’s around) Professional Dominatrix Memoir Book Club please email my email slave Jack at jack@jackhasanenormouscock.org
(Also “That’s where women differentiate from men“??? Is that even in English?)


40 Comments
March 30, 2008 at 4:44 pm
On a slightly different, but related note, I’ve never read a pro dominatrix memoir, but I have read a couple of those “Getting Started in Female Domination” books. These inevitably begin with “So, your husband or boyfriend has told you that he is interested in female domination and you are wondering what it’s all about…” And then it will go on for the first four chapters trying to convince you to give this freaky domination thing a try.
It’s so depressing to read that when you don’t even have a boyfriend and you are already interested in female domination. It also makes you wonder — if being a Domme is so great, why do they have to spend 300 pages attempting to convince you to try it?
So, pretty much all the femdom books out there are either about pros or about women just doing it to please their men. Blech.
I bet that books geared at male doms don’t start out, “So, your girlfriend or wife has told you that she likes to be tied up….”
March 30, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Yeah. Women who do dominatrixing are never doing it because it is hot. Perplexing as it is the hottest ever thing.
And there is one other genre of ‘dominatrix’ book that I must talk about some time. You know them. Dominatrix Up Your Life! - use the skills of a dominatrix to get what you want at home/work/relationships/wedding receptions. This genre of book is so ever present that I do start to wonder why my life is not more sorted…
March 30, 2008 at 5:15 pm
I work in administration and I totally feel the pain of being a postal slave. Though there is no sexual kink involved.
Neither is there a mind buzz. Nope, not happening at the franking machine
March 30, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Oh, my god there are “Dominatrix up your life” books? That is hilarious. Who writes them?
March 30, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Type ‘dominatrix’ into amazon…
Look, here’s one
March 30, 2008 at 7:47 pm
I am sorry to say I’ve read one of the memoirs you mention in this post. At least it was a little more well-written than the one you quoted.
March 31, 2008 at 12:05 am
Is dominating now synonymous with organizational stuff like remembering when to take the bins out and writing thank you notelets?
Deeply unsexah!
March 31, 2008 at 3:27 am
A mechanic once told me I had a “power slave breakdown.” He could have fixed it, but it was cheaper to replace the whole transmission, and really the car wasn’t worth it at that point. At least I think that’s what he said it was.
March 31, 2008 at 3:59 am
Maybe they just presume that people who already want to do it don’t need a book, just someone to experiment with. I’m not saying that they’re correct. I like knowledge, but I can understand why they might assume that.
I think that really the problem is that we have a society in which it’s considered shameful for a woman to want to dominate a man or for a man to want a woman to dominate them. It’s not “feminine” to tie him up and beat him, and it’s not “masculine” to let yourself be tied up and beaten. So you wind up with people who are completely afraid to tell someone they’re dating what they’re into for fear of rejection. I used to read the ball-busting forums a lot, and it was common to read posts from guys who would say something like “Well, I’ve been married for 10 years, but I could -never- tell my wife that I want my balls busted”. It took some effort on my part to avoid screaming “what the fuck is wrong with you!” at them, but I always managed. I figured that if they couldn’t do it after being married for 10 years, they’re not going to do it after being married for 10 years and then having some random fetishist screaming at them for two minutes. I did try to ask them why not, but I never got a good answer. Usually they just said something like “Oh, I just couldn’t” or “She wouldn’t understand.” I never ran into any women in the opposite situation, but I do tend to believe that they’re out there. I mean, if you’re neck deep in a vanilla relationship, how would you tell your partner that you think that you’d be more turned on if he were in more pain? I’d think it would feel sort of like saying “I think I’d like to give a go to being a husband batterer. What do you say?” If the answer isn’t resoundingly positive, it could mean pretty serious relationship problems.
So anyway, I think that there are a lot of guys who get married without telling their wife what they’re into for fear that they’re appear weak or unmasculine or something. And eventually, they work up the courage to say something. And as sad as that is, there are enough people who do that to make it worth writing whole books so that they can buy them for their wives.
Me, I told my wife on the second date, and she said it sounded fun. I do still plan on loaning her my copy of Hardy Haberman’s Family Jewels once I figure out what box it’s packed away in, but that’s just for information about techniques, not to convince her of anything.
March 31, 2008 at 9:31 am
I was slighty worried about you after your last post, but I’m pleased to see you back on form and not sounding like a broken record again.
Yeah, down with the pro dommes who might, just might, (could it be true?!) be doing something that they actually enjoy. And get rid of the women who like to dress up because you don’t like it. In fact, let’s bring back censorship and put Bitchy in charge - we can’t have women going round doing what they want, and dressing up in things that Bitchy doesn’t approve of. There is not enough room in the world for every type of person to express themselves how they want to.
How about you concentrate on you for a little while? Or do something constructive - set up a group online or in real life for women just like you (but make sure you ban the women who do dominatrixing for money AND as a lifestyle)?
March 31, 2008 at 9:45 am
Okay, so, it doesn’t matter that all the dominant women in the media (in books or in any other way) are prodoms because prodoms are just the same as other dominant women?
Is that what you’re saying?
March 31, 2008 at 10:16 am
Pro dommes are just women. They do what they do for a living and many of them embrace the lifestyle outside of sessions. Why can’t women have it all? It’s about time they did.
You see more pro dommes in the media as they are the ones who are most likely to accept the publicity. I doubt many non pro dominants would do that. It would be nice, but I don’t think they will. They don’t want the public exposure and like anonynimity.
I watched the tv programme about bloggers. Girl With A One Track Mind had her anonynimity taken away from her. You have taken a step towards being the in media, and you have still protected yourself. If you won’t/can’t expose yourself publicly (I am not suggesting you have to), then you must understand why there are not more non pro dominants wanting to be in a film, magazine, book etc.
March 31, 2008 at 10:21 am
I have yet to see a prodom website where she mentioned the fact she was just a woman.
As for the idea that facilitating male sexual fantasies for money is ‘having it all’…
…excuse me, I think I may be hemorrhaging…
March 31, 2008 at 10:26 am
Also, I don’t why I am being told off for saying pros aren’t into it. I was just quoting from a sex magazine with the woman and her mind buzz.
March 31, 2008 at 1:02 pm
I’d rather see Bitchy’s writing in print form than another book that tries to convince the reader that women never get into kink because they actually enjoy it. No matter how many times a pro-dom calls herself Goddess, she looks fairly insecure when all she talks about is ‘forcing’ her clients to do what they’d enjoy doing anyways.
Sigh. I fail at writing at the moment.
March 31, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Im glad to see that Bitchy is stranding up for herself. It doesnt matter what the Pro Dommes say such as Miss A, ultimately as is blatant in the 1st article of this thread this crap is political motivations manipulating the use of innate sexuality of others.
Whether Pro Dommes think this is female empowerment or not, all its serves is themselves whom indeed are female, yet this shits on other women who might have motivations such a Bitchies.
When we consider that the whole thing originates from female sexual politics, freedom of sexual rights and so on then this makes Pro Dommes extremely ironic, shirt sighted and actualy anti-female.
Hopefully people will start to realize this becuase Pro Dommes are extremely damaging.
March 31, 2008 at 6:41 pm
But… some Pro Dommes DO think it’s hot. Others do not. Some are lifestyle. Others are not. Some will do whatever scene, so long as there’s money in it. Some turn down sessions with clients that seem less than sincere or in sync with their interests. We are not some homogenous, latex-clad mass.
And I, for one, am just a woman. And not even the most together one.
The media glams up everything: given a choice between a woman beating up a man in her street clothes and a woman doing the same in a catsuit and 8-inch heels, they will take the latter. I don’t see how that is our fault or how it justifies a call for our extinction. There are no forensic scientist blogs demanding that actors stop portraying them unrealistically on the various primetime crime shows that air. Or claiming that the actors must be uniformly disgusted by the idea of forensic science (because otherwise, they wouldn’t take money to do their job!)
I suspect that if you got rid of all the Pro Dommes, the media would either go on portraying kink in exactly the same way, or they’d stop portraying it at all. Vanilla sex doesn’t even get shown in all its mundane glory: movies and TV like to turn it into an extravaganza in which everyone is young, perfect-looking, never needs lube or another minute to get fully hard, and then finishes up with a simultaneous orgasm.
So really… isn’t your fight with the media?
March 31, 2008 at 6:47 pm
This post is about the media. It’s about a book and a magazine. In both examples a prodom is teaming up with the media to say something very toxic about dominant women. Reread that first quote. She’s not talking about herself. She’s not talking about all prodoms even. She’s talking about dominant women, even women in general as not needing to be sexually aroused by the sex that they have.
That’s where women differentiate from men, as women don’t have to have that. You can get your rocks off with more of a mind buzz than just getting your end away.
Tell me, honestly, do you not think I should have called that out?
March 31, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Miss A
“let’s bring back censorship and put Bitchy in charge”
This comment is a piggy back generalization from someone who obviously lacks intellect.
Yes censorship is generally known to be bad. However tagging Bitchy in with that in your comment to bolster it is underhand.
“Lets ditch sex education and put Miss A in charge” do you see me say that to you? No you don’t.
The fact of the matter is the before the internet there where loads of Dommes in the scene, since then the ideologies have somewhat changed to say the least.
So when it comes to the innapropriate use of the word “censorship” the subject of Bitchy Jones and her views is not really related I’m afraid.
Now run along Miss A.
March 31, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Bitchy,
If she’s not talking about Pro’s, then… why does this whole post drip hatred for them? She’s a woman who said something nearly unintelligible that you (and I) object to: the problem as I see it is that the media gave one of the dimmer bulbs a chance to speak to the masses and she made us ALL look stupid. The fact that she’s a Pro seems irrelevant.
Unless, of course, your point is that all Pro’s are bobble-headed, money-grubbing bimbos.
March 31, 2008 at 7:23 pm
I think the way that prodoms work with the fetishy media to promote themselves and their businesses (and they say ridiculous fucking things) marginalises women like me and excludes women who don’t want to be professional dominatrixes from dominant sexuality.
All I have done here is show you a couple of examples of this that I found without really looking too hard. If you don’t think that dominant het female sexuality isn’t marginalised, excluded and crushed by a great number of factors of which this is very surely one I just don’t know where you are looking.
You don’t need to take this so personally. This isn’t about you. It’s about a prevailing ideology.
March 31, 2008 at 7:33 pm
The other thing is that it isn’t just her. Prodoms are always saying stuff like this
And if she’s really so unusual, find me a prodom who’s saying things that I can identify with instead of Whee, look what he bought me!
March 31, 2008 at 8:06 pm
If everyone became switch this might somewhat trounce opportunies of altered states of perception that deviate from sexualitym therefore might be benificial to F/m in the long run, while still retaining the F/m within.
I reckon.
March 31, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Glad to see you feeling better. Seems like you and Jack were just having communication problems; it has nothing to do with how desirable you are.
March 31, 2008 at 8:32 pm
I don’t know how Pro’s are NOT supposed to take it personally. “Latex clad rentable boobies?” Sounds personal!
Of course het-femdom sexuality is marginalized. I take phone calls everyday from men who want me to be their object for a set amount of hours, rather than an active and interested participant in a scene. I have tried (and failed) to enjoy kinky porn. And as a Pro, I KNOW that you can do a higher volume of sessions if you spout the female supremacist psychobabble and “threaten” men with ass fuckings.
But probably, it’s always going to be that way, whether idiotic books get written or not. Whether HBO does another documentary on commercial dungeons or not. The masses like their sexuality mangled and oppressive. The best solution– meaning, it actually yields results — seems to be surrounding yourself with people who can imagine something better.
Offhand, I can think of at least four Pro’s (myself included) who link to this site. I would say that they are all women who are serious about their kink, and with whom you might identify.
And offhand, I can think of some non-pro’s who’d make your head explode with their inanity.
In short, I don’t think the line is drawn straight down the middle, Pro’s on one side and solely lifestyle dommes on the other. We’re not rendered natural enemies because one of us gets paid sometimes.
And it’s hard not to take it personally when “Pro Dom” is bandied around as a synonym for “idiot,” or worse.
March 31, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Bitchy - you aren’t ‘just’ quoting from a sex magazine. Half your blog posts are fuelled with vileness toward woman that are pro dommes. As for my ‘having it all’ remark - I should expand. A woman (ANY woman) who is self employed and doing what she likes to do for a living gets my respect. I admire people who take a step out of the ‘rat race’, away from the 9-5 and DO something. It’s all too easy to stay put, do nothing, complain, lament etc.
You make your point over and over again. Your views are well established. Without wanting to risk you having another haemorrhage (two in one day isn’t good for anyone), what I would like to know is what are you going to do about all that you bitch about? Your blog is a start, but apart from bitching about how everything is wrong for you, are you taking any other steps towards addressing the balance? Is this as much as you are prepared to do for women like you (who is like me (lifestyle) but without sessions)? A book? A column in one of the publications that don’t represent you? An interview(s) on the radio? All of which should enable you to protect your anonynimity.
Gimp - Yes, I am a pro domme, AND I am a lifestyle domme, but that count for nothing I suspect. Even if I never took another session again, I wouldn’t see pro dommes as a threat to me in any way. I don’t/wouldn’t care what they wear or what they do. There is enough discrimination in the world without people turning against a set of people that are picked apart by Bitchy on her blog.
“ ‘let’s bring back censorship and put Bitchy in charge’ This comment is a piggy back generalization from someone who obviously lacks intellect.” Lacking intellect, or not, there are many generalizations made here. But as Bitchy says in response to ‘E’, a pro domme, no need to take it personally.
And no Gimp, I won’t conveniently ‘Run along’. I have a lot more to say on the subject, so expect to hear from me again.
March 31, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Concerning those “your partner wants you to try kink so he bought you this book”-books (and whether those exist in MaleDom): They exist - for FemSubs. But they seem to be mostly about the fear of being tied up and hurt, so they make some kind of sense at least… Still kinda strange that it’s always the women which are to persuade.
March 31, 2008 at 9:54 pm
@ bitchy: “And if she’s really so unusual, find me a prodom who’s saying things that I can identify with instead of Whee, look what he bought me!”
Just click on “E”. I think what she writes sounds very human, I could really imagine a woman instead of a seemingly randomly generated pro dommé behind that page.
I think you are making a big mistake in your “war” against dominatrices: “There be no exceptions!” Even if you haven’t said this, this is your opinion by default until you say otherwise. And it is always wrong (at least with categorizations).
PS: I’m from Germany, so I excuse all mistakes in my English beforehand.
March 31, 2008 at 10:04 pm
It’s not a ‘war’, it’s a Book Club
April 1, 2008 at 1:15 am
I don’t know any prodommes, so I can’t speak about them in general, but, like Bitchy, I am disturbed by Mistress Absolute and her “mind buzz” quote. What I hear her say is that female desire and sexual arousal are unimportant, and that all women need is to get a “mind buzz” out of doing whatever a man wants them to do.
That is retarded. Women need to stand up for their desires, not just spend their lives catering to male desires.
Also, “Mistress Absolute??” I just realized that that is what she calls herself. That is pretty pathetic. I almost feel sorry for Mistress Absolute.
April 1, 2008 at 2:35 am
I wonder how many pro doms started as vanilla sex workers and then specialized. Does anyone have any data on this?
April 1, 2008 at 12:38 pm
“It’s not a ‘war’, it’s a Book Club”
Ok, then read my post again and replace war with Book Club, because it seems you are just evading my arguments.
April 1, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Fleisch, you kind of missed the point of the book club comment.
Ubiquity will be the death of any kink, though, Bitchy. I agree with whoever said that given a choice between a normal girl and someone in a latex catsuit the media will all way choose latex rent-a-booby. Media is a business too. They cover what sells. Sadly, latex rent-a-booby sells better than girls like me. Possibly even girls like you. Sad that.
April 1, 2008 at 2:56 pm
An idle thought:
Given that one of Ms. Jones’ major theses is that she hates the way her sexuality has been repackaged as a commodity for sale, why the fuck is everyone trying to justify it with the reasoning that packaged up that way it SELLS BETTER? It’s like complaining that you stepped in dogshit and having someone reassure you that it’s only because it’s more convenient for dogs to shit on the sidewalk.
And of course there’s the “that’s just the way it is, some things’ll never change” bullshit, but that’s a rant for another day.
April 1, 2008 at 4:45 pm
I think I’m an email slave. *thinks*
No, no, just an email addict. Glad I cleared that up.
You should read my blog sometime, Bitchy. I am an incredibly intelligent set of rentable boobies, I swear! But I don’t take this personally, cause I’m not like those Pros. I’ve known people who were, which is why I’m inclined to agree with you/read you. And because “Exit to Eden” really pissed me off, and reading you makes me feel like it’s not entirely out of nowhere that I feel that way.
April 1, 2008 at 5:00 pm
But you know the thing is, I don’t think I am interested enough in sex work to read blogs by sex workers. All the prodim blogs I have ever seen only talk about prodimming and I don’t really care enough about that to read about it. (Not unless is is for the laughing)
I would like to see a blog by a prodim where she talks about the real life deviant sex she supposedly has that’s gets her hot.
Anyone who knows me will tell you that I am mainly interested in (a) sex and (b) me (and (c) cock). I only really want to read about people having sex like I do. And prodim isn’t like that because it is all dungeons and equipment. I want to read stuff about ongoing relationships and not getting piss on the carpet.
(Sorry about the typos. I’m such a true sadist)
April 1, 2008 at 6:21 pm
I think one problem with the blogs of commercial doms is that they are always having to be concerned with selling something, with looking over their shoulder at how their existing or prospective johns are perceiving them, so perhaps they can’t be entirely candid. Candor is one of the appealing features of this blog.
April 3, 2008 at 12:38 am
You just keep getting better and better. I love the Pro Domme blogs that now say,”Wwell, Bitchy Jones may be right about most dommes, but not me! Nope, I’m different.” You are sparking a movement, Bitchy!
April 3, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Dear Miss A:
*I* would take the publicity.
But I don’t look so good in latex. D’you think they’ll put me on TV anyway? I have my doubts…
July 6, 2008 at 1:21 am
If I follow this long blog & thread correctly, anyone who’s genuinely into lifestyle *anything*, be it bdsm, vanilla sex, fetish sex, is okay. As long as no money is involved, their activities are untainted and more likely to be authentic expressions of human sexuality. I hope that’s right so far. It makes sense, except insofar as guilt and shame and obsessive need can cloud anything we humans desire.
It seems the main complaint stems from the confusions around sex work and the erroneous representation of sex-for-money activities as realistic and accurate. Exchanging sex for money is supposed to be pretty old, so that much is real. It’s what goes on between the ears that’s confusing.
But wouldn’t all of Bitchy’s complaints about pro-domming apply equally to prostitution? I’m sure prostitutes are all over the map when it comes to how they feel about their work. Some probably enjoy it and some not. Some care about their clients and some not. I really don’t care.
I went to a pro-domme a few times before I could find a way into my local kink community, and years into my vanilla marriage. I’ve told my wife, and she says “fine” but has zero interest or curiosity in it herself (and little interest in sex anyway). The dominatrix I visited is a lifestyle person, but she is totally professional. Professionals of any stripe must draw a line between their professional and personal life. So, I was treated fairly, compassionately, and got the taste I wanted. Having to pay did mess it up. I’m a lifestyle person too. So I don’t go to paid sessions anymore, because there is that “bit” that it isn’t real enough. It can’t be. It is what it is. It’s like paying to hear a concert when what I want is to play the music myself, with a partner.
The media will do what they do with all of it. They’re professionals at what they do, even if we don’t like it. The best way to address that is to put out a competitive product that’s better than what’s out there. Write something better. Bitching about things doesn’t advance the cause as much as trying to change the playing field. Kink must keep inching out of the closet, for one thing. Shame about sex needs to end one day. We all have a lot of work to do to change our world, so that real human nature and desire can be explored and enjoyed, maybe without the aritificialness of “paying for it.” [I hope some of this makes sense - my apologies if it doesn't.]
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