May 15, 2008...12:22 pm
Beautiful Lies
A non-unusual thing about me – and I guess it is unusual for me to have things about me that are non-unusual, as I do tend to feel a bit unicornish and outsidery – but here is the thing: the thing is this: I never realise when someone is chatting me up.
I am not particularly interesting to look at. I’m that kind of fat and plain and awkward that often translates into invisible. So, fact is, the reason I am so bad at spotting sexual interest in me might be because it hasn’t happened to me often enough for me to create any kind of model of it happening in my brain. Pretty people, I am sure, get it far better because (a) it is something they at least accept could possibly happen and (b) they have had it happen enough times that they kind of know what it’s like.
I’m a dominant woman. I get turned on by a pretence of power, by a fake status difference during sex, by telling him what to wear and how to stand and hurting him only because it makes me gasp and get wetterer. But all around me in my unelected culture is the message that this power, having this, deserving this, having him hold his legs open for a short little strap on his inner thighs, will all happen only because I am beautiful. That my weak female self can only hold the power of bewitchment. That I have no real right to power of command over men unless I am so aesthetically pleasing he is driven mad by it.
Not because he is brave and beautiful and wants to show me his manpower by giving it to me with his grunt and sweat. Not because he might find pleasure in my pleasure, might glory in my hot pulse and flush.
In femdom you simply have this doubled and trebled message that your pretty is your worth, brought on by all the weight of the femdom ideology revolving around a male idea of a very controlled form of female power. As your pretty is your worth for a woman, then if you want more worth (and power and value) just be more pretty.
Which is why sex working/burlesquing/wearing lipstick is somehow (mis)construed as *gaining* *power* because that’s where you get if you extrapolate far enough from female-worth = female-beauty. Even though nothing could really be less empowering than that central underlying fact that you are worth what men decide you are worth.
So it’s not like wearing lipstick in itself is disempowering - it’s neutral - but thinking or claiming it gains you power actual is.
And god, you know, if these days it is like the thing that we laugh at women who burnt their bras as a feministy thing I hope we are going to laugh ten times harder and longer at women who wear corsets and then say that is a feministy thing. I mean, god, wear a corset if you want, wear 12, but don’t start saying it’s empowering. Your underwear is not really doing anything to address the power differentials between men and women now is it? After you take your corset off the world is just that same. So you know, wear so many corsets you can’t get up off the floor if you want, but don’t tell me it’s political. It’s not.
And while we’re on the subject you can say burlesque to me as many times as you like I am still only going to hear stripping with class pretensions. Nothing wrong with it – but women taking their clothes off and being the looked-at-things is hardly new and revolutionary.
What is - or would be - new and revolutionary is this, very simply, men as sex objects for women.
Oh, come on! Give me a revolution and can get behind. Or better yet, underneath. Or better yet, in front of bent over with a folded up towel under my abdomen pulling me backwards. Oh yes, you know, if I’m going to put up with something constricting my pale, unstructured, mozzarella-touch belly I’d much rather it was something nice and firm and wide yanking me back onto his cock than a exoskeleton of metal and lace.
(But you know, this isn’t what we are talking about today. Maybe I can find a way back to my point and look like I had a structure and a plan or something.)
Here’s a weird thing, being a dominant woman you not only feel the intense pressure that you may only have your sexuality if you are some awestrickening goddess, you also witness how claustrophobic it can be actually being intensely desired by a whole bunch of men. The total fucking flipside is that *as* *well* you can even be a frumpy old mess with lame glasses and lamer hair like me and people will still want to get off with you because some submissive men are so liberated that they see past all that surface appearance nonsense and instead wank like monkeys over that fact that I get turned out hurting them. Because of course it so so much more validating to be reacted to based on some arbitrary bit of misfiring brain wiring than based on some arbitrary arrangement of my exterior topography.
But, that’s in kink - I am totally not ever prepared for men chatting me up in a vanilla context. Except for a bet. And so, when it happens (very rarely) I am very bad at spotting it.
But there’s being bad at spotting something… and then there’s this.
Last Saturday, late, me and Jack were drinking, walking in the street on our way to somewhere else. He needed the loo so decided to pop into a pub. Because we had an open can of lager I waited outside with it. It was a hot, hot night (it is unseasonably hot in the UK right now).
Jack had not been gone less than 30 seconds when a little tiny man came up to me. He looked exactly like Niles Crane except was about two feet shorter. He had an American accent and was peachily youthful. He said to me, from nowhere, standing in the street ‘So who do you think lies more, men or women?‘
I said, ‘Gosh, I have absolutely no idea.’ And as I said that I saw a second little tiny-weeny miniature man approaching. He was not so attractive as pocket-Niles – if pocket-Niles could be described as attractive in some generous and forgiving universe.
Pocket-Niles said something about how men lie more but women tell the really big lies because they are better liars. I didn’t answer by saying ‘you obviously haven’t dated many submissive men.’
Or, well, you know that guy in Austria with the cellar under his house full of his incestuous family – I think he maybe told a few ‘really big’ lies. And maybe, oh maybe, the biggest lies are the kind of genocidal, warmongering type of lies, but I’m sure you’d get the answer that ‘women tell the really big lies’ if you asked Tony Blair or George Bush or Hitler who they think lies more.
I never said all of this to them. Being clever and funny after the fact is the true preserve of the blogger.
Because there are many, many other clever answers to this question I never said. Because, oh, damn, I wish I had been smart enough to give this question the headfuck it deserves. I didn’t spend my adolescence reading books on logic problems for nothing (or did I? (See what I did there?)) - and actually maybe my misdirected youthful activities might explain why I don’t know when someone is trying to fuck me
How do I know that isn’t a lie?
How do you know this isn’t a lie?
Women always tell the truth.. or do they? (- see what I did there?)
Or best of all
I can tell you for a fact that all women lie all of the time
What I did say was, ‘So what’s the biggest lie you’ve ever told a woman?‘
And little tiny-weeny gnome one finally squeaked up with some suggestions (a) I love you (b) your bum doesn’t look big in that. Whereas pocket-Niles went all quiet and looked a bit confused.
Then Jack appeared out of the pub and the two tiny creatures *ran* away. I tried to involve Jack in the conversation (because I honestly did think it was a conversation) by asking him who lied most men or women, but it was too late, my new friends were not interested in talking to me once Jack had alphaed his way onto there hopeful territory.
And then, when I told Jack exactly what had happened, he said, ‘That was the pick up artist thing. Like that book The Game? They were doing The Game on you.’ Jack is supasmart. He has read, like, ten million books and he can remember things. He is very not like me. I am smart in a far more smart-brut kind of a way. (Although, I suppose Jack is more of a smart brute than me if you see the subtle differences.).
But, despite knowing that Jack probably knew what he was talking about I was very incredulous because , come on, people who do some thing like The Game don’t do it so they can pick up low-scoring drab looking women like me. Don’t be silly, why would anyone be doing the Pick Up Artist Game thing on me?
But Jack ignored this flapping. ‘In fact I think ‘Who lies most men or women?’ is in that book The Game. It’s one of their questions. There is probably even an acronym for it. They’re geeks. They have given everything an acronym.’
A little online searching reveal that that opener wasn’t just something people doing The Pick Artist thing use, it is like the main thing they seem to use. It is like code for hello I am doing that lame pick up artist thing.
- But there were two of them? Was I meant to have sex with both of them?
- No, the little gnome one was the “wing-man” (Please note that Jack really did do air-quotes here and that he does them *a* *lot*. I would say, rough estimate, every other word he says.)
- Oh, right. But actually, how come you know so much about The Game?
- I just read the book
- Do you do The Game? Did you do it on me?
- Yes, the game has a whole section on impressing women by buying nipple clamps and getting your tongue pierced
But the tiny men didn’t pick me up with their tried and tested. Which is some what sad ’cause if they had just squeaked to me: sex? We have those urgent hair-trigger erections of youth and or cocks are in no way in proportion to our tiny weeny statures. And we’ll gay up. I’m not saying it would have been a sure thing – but that *might* have worked. And it would have required a seismic cultural shifting. The Game/Pick Up Artist thing is fully entrenched in the idea that sex is something only men desire and only women control.
But it’s hardly the fault of The Game that the world is like this. The Game didn’t cause this – it just reflects it back. But, then again, everything that reflects this sad state of affairs (and really big lie) back just enhances it. Every reflection makes it stronger. Endorses it over and over.
It the same as the thing that underlies all those kinds of fake ‘empowerment’ where women are the sex-product and men are the sex-consumers. All the same fucked up thing. None of them are the cause and all of them are the cause
So what is the real cause. Well there isn’t one. Oh, except prodoms.
Sorry that was a little joke – prodoms are reflectors too - they are sex-product (yes you are your fucking bitch-majesty – no matter how much you are into it for the real – you even come gift wrapped for fuck’s sake) and men are sex-consumers. Men paying women for sex is all the same thing.
But I still had to go make that joke about prodoms there and once again bait a bunch of people who’s job it is to know how to hurt and humiliate people. But luckily for me I’m pretty much immune to being called ‘a cockhungry slut-whore’, I mean, and?
And, obviously, also, this entire post has been a lie
And obviously also, also, who does lie most, men or women? Answer in the comments. And see if you can convince me to believe anything you say is true.


50 Comments
May 15, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Offering to gay up would have totally gotten me. Unless I had an alpha male in the bathroom who liked me to hurt him.
I’d like that too.
I like what you have to say about prettiness and power. I think that’s one of the things that annoys me about all that “Female Superiority” crap. wiTh The Arbitrary cApitalization. Because the whole notion of male OR female superiority reinforces the idea that there are only two genders and that everyone slips very nicely into them.
There’s no doubt that I’m female, and I can even get very girly-girl at times, but sometimes when I’m fucking Bran the genders get all confused. And I like that.
I asked him last night, “do you like it when I hurt you?” knowing the answer would be not. “Not as much as you do,” he replied. Which made me feel bad and icky and like a horrible sadist. But he lets me do it anyway. And I’m careful of him. And he’s told me before that what he really likes is things that turn other people on. Which I can get behind.
You’ll have to decide whether any of this is true.
May 15, 2008 at 5:09 pm
I’m surprised that that whole culture dedicated to getting women to sleep with them AT ANY COST OMGZ doesn’t make more of gaying up. They’re missing a trick.
May 15, 2008 at 6:51 pm
I think they’re too stupid to realise that women have libidos. Surely only men like watching two people of the opposite sex get it on. *eyeroll*
May 15, 2008 at 7:21 pm
I’ve been reading for ages, but way too shy to actually, like, say hi. Even when I’ve really wanted to. But you mentioned burlesque and I just wanted to say THANK CHRIST for saying that. It’s not just my imagination. I went to a burlesque workshop and it made me so, so uneasy. And I thought it was just me, so I stayed, and I posed really badly, and I tassle twirled, which hurt like bejesus. But not in any good way, even if it was fun.
A load of my friends went to the workshop on a different day and they all loved it. I kinda felt like I must’ve been doing it wrong. But see I am way more feminist than any of my friends (which is a depressing story for another day). So it’s such a relief to hear someone else say ’stripping with class pretensions’. Not that I would have come up with something so simple. Also, ‘burlesque’ is still shorter.
And the same about corsets. And lipstick. I want to give up and cry when people tell me they are empowering.
This is probably the wrong post to comment on the the first time. It’s all true, I swear.
I love your site so much that if I was single I would want to run off with it.
May 15, 2008 at 8:05 pm
You say you have “no real right to power of command over men unless I am so aesthetically pleasing he is driven mad by it.”
Oh no, not true. So much of desire is in the mind, not merely the body.
You can imagine a male aroused by large breasts or blonde hair. Can’t you also imagine a male aroused by a powerful woman? For whom her authority is what he craves?
Or is your remark a lie, and you already know your intrinsic power, your inherent appeal?
May 15, 2008 at 8:23 pm
That’s why I like fiction. It’s a lie, everyone knows it’s a lie, it’s supposed to be a lie.
And that’s the truth.
May 15, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Huh. Not only did they try ‘The Game’ but the questions, and their answer (Men lie the most/women tell the biggest lies) are seemingly taken right from one of Chris Rock’s stand up specials. (A mans like is like “I was at Tony’s house!” A woman’s like is like “Thats your baby!”
Anyway, as a fat chick, I understand what you mean. Even when I think I look good, I still get confused when men try to chat me up, and half the time miss it.
May 15, 2008 at 9:17 pm
I think, in general, submissive people lie more than dominant people. So that could mean women and gay men who are bottoms (like myself) lie more. But I don’t know - when you fuck as many people as I do its hard to ever tell the truth.
Glad you had fun with your midgets/little people.
May 15, 2008 at 10:33 pm
You know that straight men can be submissive, right?
May 15, 2008 at 11:15 pm
I used to lie and tell the Big Lies so easily, now I really don’t and can’t. I have trouble even with the little lies now, and it screws me up sometimes. Does that mean I have become less of a woman? More dominant? More mature? (See what I did there?)
My first submissive long-term partner never lied, that I ever knew about. The second one, lied constantly, but mostly to himself. The current one has told some Big Whopper lies, mostly of omission, but he had good reasons and ‘fessed up when confronted. Honestly, I have no idea how much he lies. But I can live with that.
This entire post rocked so hard, Bitchy. I want to make a bumper sticker or something advertising you. If anyone ever asks me what I think feminism is all about, I’ll just say “Bitchy Jones.”
Hah!
May 16, 2008 at 4:18 am
I wouldn’t know when I was being chatted up either. It reminds me of the guy in primary school who made a point of letting me, and everyone else around me, know that I was NOT a looker and, therefore, should never expect anyone to EVER hit on me for any reason. He was the smartest and, I thought, the cutest (well, it was primary school) boy in the class and he must have picked up on my interest somehow (being the fat girl who was painfully shy, I tended not to talk to many people). So, in front of his mates and a classroom full of kids, he asked me “Will you go out with me?”. And as quickly as I started to smile, he said, “I wouldn’t go out with you if you were the last person on earth” (or something equally as earth shattering).
What I took away from that experience was this: a) boys (and, by default, men) will never seriously hit on me, and b) people lie.
But most importantly, people lie.
May 16, 2008 at 4:41 am
Hmmm. I think men and women lie the same amount, statistically speaking. (Hey, does saying things you could never prove but sort of believe for no good reason count as lying? If so, I have really bad karma by now.)
I’m a pretty bad liar; I blush and can’t look people in the eyes. Unless it’s for fun and totally outrageous, like getting the history nerd in grade seven to believe for five whole minutes that Attila the Hun was a girl masquerading as a man, and her body had recently been found by archeologists in a burial mound hidden under a lake. That kind of lying I’m good at. (Now, this is the truth but would be a fun lie, if it was a lie, so… )
Nom.
May 16, 2008 at 6:48 am
@Wen - dude. That guy sucks. I will help you track him down and beat him up. In a not fun way.
May 16, 2008 at 7:42 am
If a woman ever said to me: “Everything a woman ever says to you is a lie”, I hope I’d be quick enough to respond: “that’s strange, you don’t *look* Cretan”. But my mind also never comes up with witty quips until well after the event.
(and I also never realise when I’m getting hit on)
May 16, 2008 at 7:48 am
I would probably think you were calling me a cretin.
May 16, 2008 at 8:03 am
LOL Thank You Wendy!! I kind of babbled on about me to answer Bitchy’s question about who lies most (I am sorry, Bitchy, I didn’t mean it REALLY!!). The point is, people lie. All kinds of people and I don’t think any particular group is in the majority.
May 16, 2008 at 8:55 am
That is why it is a good thing that I do not think of witty quips until well after the event - because, when I do, they get misunderstood and go down like a lead balloon.
May 16, 2008 at 9:04 am
Which is why it is far better just to discuss what you *might* have said, theoretically, if you had been in that situation *and* had thought of it.
May 16, 2008 at 3:39 pm
“Great fiction, by carrying readers along with it, by informing and enticing and absorbing them, creates its own truth – truth that may be truer than the truest memoirs.”
Blake Morrison
Bitchy - by applying this test to your blog I’d recommend you keep on lying. You’re doing just fine…
May 16, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Bitchy, I think we need to raise awareness about this whole gaying-up-will-get-you-laid thing. Perhaps a joint blog. I wonder if gayingupwillgetyoulaid.wordpress.com is already taken.
Not that I really have time to write another blog. But I bet we could get at LEAST five other gay-sex-loving-women to write it with us.
May 16, 2008 at 6:39 pm
A facebook group ‘I will sex men who gay up for my entertainment’?
May 16, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I mentioned this to Jack last night and he told me he was happy to do it if it turned me on - which I suppose is reasonably unsurprising considering the other things he does just because they turn me on.
May 16, 2008 at 9:03 pm
See, I think this stripping-is-empowering-no-it-isn’t thing is merely the result of confusing two different movements towards freedom. Of course it isn’t doing much for women’s sexuality in the sense that pleasing the male gaze is about as old school as you can get. But stripping and then writing a book about it under your real name or wearing lipstick because it looks sexy rather than because it’s workplace drag or whatever does mean fighting the idea that Sex Is Evil And Dirty and you should be ashamed of it. And yeah, maybe this is because I’m an American and my country is still deeply uncomfortable with Teh Sex, but around here preaching the idea that sex is awesome and it is cool to want some is still a political act. And to the degree that women still get punished more than men for wanting and having sex, fighting that stigma is a feminist act.
May 16, 2008 at 9:20 pm
This argument is broken and a trick. Stripping is not women having awesome sex. Women having awesome sex is women having awesome sex.
If you are trying to say sex is awesome say sex is awesome. Saying stripping is awesome is not the same as saying sex is awesome.
May 16, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Yeah, that’s why I said not “stripping” but “stripping and then writing a book about it under your real name.” Sure saying stripping is awesome isn’t the same as saying sex is awesome, but saying stripping is nothing to be ashamed of does say sex is nothing to be ashamed of. I mean, fundamentally that’s the stigma, right? That sex is what they’re selling?
May 16, 2008 at 10:30 pm
No. They are not the same. Sex work is not the same a female sexuality. If it was you wouldn’t have to fucking pay for it
May 16, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Are you really saying I have to choose? That it is either pretending sex work is the same as female sexuality OR live in a sex negative society…?
May 16, 2008 at 11:28 pm
OMG, that would totally rock on Facebook. Except I don’t have an anonymouse profile on Facebook and would rather not get outed like Abby Lee.
Someone else should start it and then I would TOTALLY join!
Hint.
Hint.
May 16, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Oh, and just for the record. I meant to say “anonymouse.” I was trying to be cute. I’ll stop now.
May 17, 2008 at 3:30 am
I wear lipstick because its so messy. And it makes people look at my lips.
As a very tall woman, I never think anyone is looking at me, or chatting me up. This caused issues one night in a bar when some man sitting next to me and my husband started buying me drinks. My husband said “He thinks you are going to sleep with him.” “No he’s just being nice.” Apparently men don’t buy drinks to be nice.
May 17, 2008 at 4:36 am
Yes I do realize that straight men can be submissive. You’ve taught me that.
May 17, 2008 at 5:44 am
hrmm. *long time reader first time commentor*
Does it have to be empowering? OR political? OR feminist? Couldn’t it just be pleasureable? I like to strip. I’m an exhibitionist. I’m also fat and 40 something and believe me I don’t get too many takers :P. But I still like to do it.
I took a bellydancing class for a while. I found it particularly freeing. I even enjoyed the history (yes HIStory.. see what *I* did there?) I liked that the moves I was learning had been used for centuries to entice and please and control men. I liked that, I didn’t figure that my doing it, or enjoying it or learning it defined me in anyway. Does it? Why should it?
I don’t know if I’m a feminist. I don’t even know that I’m really a dominant. But I do get my way often as not.
I like to be treated like a girl. And no, girl isn’t demeaning, I don’t need to be called a woman to know I am one. I don’t define myself by how I’m treated (well yes, I do but for the sake of argument let’s just pretend I don’t). I’m one of the girls, I’m one of the guys. I’m comfortable in my own saggy, lumpy skin.
I don’t wear makeup because I dislike the feeling of it on my face. Do people judge me because of it? You betyoursweetsexyass they do. And negatively? HELL YEAH. Because I don’t spend hours on my face, or waistline, or wardrobe, it’s okay to dismiss me as a human being with ideas, ideals and limits of good or bad behaviour.
I ‘obviously’ don’t care about myself so why should anyone else. Because if I cared, I’d lose the weight, pluck the brows and wax everything in sight. And I’d spend unnecessary amounts on clothing I wouldn’t enjoy wearing but it would LOOK SO DAMN HOT.
erk..okay…rant mode is set to off.
Bree
May 17, 2008 at 6:49 am
No, of course that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that an action can be a positive in the sense that it fights the stigma against sex even if it doesn’t do any good in the sense of women reclaiming our sexual agency. In the same way that, say, being a gay marriage activist is good even though it doesn’t do any good in the fight against racism. It doesn’t mean you have to make a choice between an anti-racist society and a non-homophobic society. It just means sometimes you don’t address all problems at once.
May 17, 2008 at 8:38 am
Well that’s fine. I’m not saying stripping/being a sex-product is OMG wrong. (And I sure love sex-products when they’re aimed at me.) It’s just it’s not taking power out of the hands of men and putting it into the hands of women.
And, you know, you’d be fucking surprised how many people really think that it is!
May 17, 2008 at 5:12 pm
The worst kind of man liar is the one will be honest about having read ‘The Game’ or some such book, in the night you meet/first date. This mindfuck has driven myself in more naive years to see what it is and if it can defeat me, making me all the more malleable and confused.
May 17, 2008 at 5:57 pm
I would very much join that facebook group. Has anyone started it? I might start it!
On the subject of empowerment…
I think it’s a POV thing. If wearing lipstick/stripping/wearing plastiDomme outfits makes you *feel* empowered, then you’re empowered by it.
None of that personally works for me, but I’m not going to look down on someone it does work for, because being smart makes me feel empowered, but not many people find the ability to calculate integrals in your head as attractive as lipstick and plastiDomme outfits, sadly.
As for lying, and the men/women thing, it’s like power and the men/women thing. It’s not about gender. Being the bigger liar is about who you are, not about the shape of your bits. You mention Dubya and Hitler, but what about Thatcher, Mata Hari, Cleopatra…? And there are examples of good on both sides too.
But I could be lying.
May 17, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Luminosity:
Yes and no. Yes because if there’s something you used to feel afraid to do or that you couldn’t do, and you overcome that fear or that programming, sure, beating a fear is always an increase of your personal power. But no because it’s also relevant whether what you’re doing is in and of itself powerful. If I overcome my fear of roller coasters it might be a victory for me personally in my own head but going on a roller coaster isn’t a feminist act nor does it actually make me stronger in a political or interpersonal way. And stripping or whatever is still about women providing sex, not women getting to keep sex for themselves.
(With the exception of, as I said above, I do think it is empowering that some women have started saying “if I sell sex it does not make me ‘ruined’ or ‘fallen’ or disposable or worthless because sex is not shameful, it is a perfectly cromulent job and the laborer is worthy of her hire.” But that is not about how they feel in their own heads, it is about demanding the respect that they deserve as people from society at large.)
May 18, 2008 at 5:39 am
You know, maybe I’m just a little confused, or not as smart as the rest of you but it sure seems like no matter what I say I LIKE TODO for my own pleasure it becomes about providing sex to men. And that makes it not an empowering thing.
But I really don’t give a rat’s ass if it’s an empowering act and the fact that something I might do may be considered feminist, frankly gives me hives.
I LIKE being a woman. I like being treated differently because I’m a woman. I want a man to pet me and coddle me and look after me. i don’t really want to be paid less for the work I do, but you know what? if I do a job where a man does it better because of his physical strength or stature than I should be paid less. Why is that bad?
Because no matter how you couch it, or how you twist it to say it’s not about me it’s about society and my response to it, it damn well IS about me. And what I LIKE TO DO. For me. I like to make a man want me. Sure that’s a bit of a power trip for me, but so what? How is that different from BJ’s ability to make them want to hurt for her? If I strip it’s because I want to, not because some man or woman has deemed it an act I must perform. Not everything in this world is a stance. Sometimes it’s just because someone enjoys it.
May 18, 2008 at 11:59 am
So… you all should start adding pictures to the facebook group. Pretty please : )
May 18, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Vito:
I disagree. For me, feminism is about being who I want to be, and doing what I want to do, regardless of what society, or any section thereof tells me. Feminism is about freedom. Not being empowered because it doesn’t fit some ‘feminist’ model is every bit as bad as not being empowered because it doesn’t fit a chauvinist one.
I’m female, good at science and math, and the dominant flavor of kinky. I shave my head, wear silver boots, can fix a flat and change my own oil. I like burlesque shows, porn, musicals and horror movies.
At one point or the other, someone has told me that each and every one of those things made me either not a feminist, or not feminine, or both. *That* is oppression. They don’t get to define feminism for me, and I don’t get to define it for anyone but myself. That’s how freedom works.
May 18, 2008 at 3:37 pm
I want to say ‘I promise not to define feminism if you promise not to define freedom‘, but… no.
I do define feminism (so I must hate freedom, or something): Feminism is about taking power previously controlled by men and sharing it between men and women.
No assessment of fashion choices necessary.
‘Cause what I’m saying here (or, at least waaay up there) is that these women-as-sex-product/self-empowerment things are nothing to do with feminism - that’s not the same as saying they are anti-feminism. Just ’cause someone in the past has called some of your life choices anti-feminist doesn’t mean the truth is ‘they so are feminist’, more that they are feminism irrelevant. If you are a feminist (which is great and everyone should be) it doesn’t mean you are permanently on call and everything you do is an act of feminism. That would mean everything you did had to directly redistribute power. Hard work.
(A big battle of mine is the one where my sexuality is nothing whatsoever to do with my feminism. It really isn’t)
I think you can be a sex worker and a feminist, but I don’t think being a sex worker makes you a feminist.
Now, facebook group - is it up yet?
May 18, 2008 at 9:24 pm
“If you are a feminist (which is great and everyone should be) it doesn’t mean you are permanently on call and everything you do is an act of feminism. That would mean everything you did had to directly redistribute power. Hard work.”
Too true. And you often find yourself looking in the wrong place for the battles. I mean, yes it pisses me off that you can buy boob-shaped cake in Tesco, but when I want to purchase penis-shaped cake at my local supermarket, can I find it? Nooooo. But compared to things like trafficking women from eastern Europe to work in brothels, it’s not that big a deal…
May 19, 2008 at 6:12 am
“I mean, yes it pisses me off that you can buy boob-shaped cake in Tesco, but when I want to purchase penis-shaped cake at my local supermarket, can I find it? Nooooo.”
Try aisle nine? I have this fantasy about there being an aisle nine in every supermarket where they keep the handcuffs and vibrators and other goodies. I keep looking for it. I expect if I keep looking, maybe one day it will be there.
“Honey, would you just nip down to the supermarket and pick up some eggs, a ball gag, and a penis shaped cake for me?”
…arrives at supermarket
“Excuse me, where do you keep the ball gags?”
“Aisle nine, with the other headgear, right next to the inflatable spanking benches, here let me show you…”
“And where are the penis shaped cakes?”
“Right over here, with the baked goods.”
“Thank you very much. Oooh, I think I’ll have some of those manacle muffins as well. Do you have those in caramel?”
“I’m sorry sir, we’re out of caramel, just the chocolate are left. We’ll be getting a new shipment in tomorrow. Have you tried our toffee flavoured finger cuffs? They’re on special offer, a dozen for 1.99″
“Oh great, I’ll try some of those instead, thank you.”
“You’re very welcome sir. Thank you for shopping at Inclusively Stocked Mainstream Retailers.”
…arrives home
“Oh, shit, I forgot the eggs!”
(Even with that small likely drawback, I think every supermarket should have an aisle nine.
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May 19, 2008 at 7:10 am
We have aisle 9’s here. None of them have kinky anything in them… Unless you count one of them having peanut butter in it as kinky, but if you’re reading this, then i doubt that’s the case.
May 19, 2008 at 10:25 am
Facebook group is up.
“I will sex men who gay up for my entertainment”
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=15088392827&ref=mfI
May 19, 2008 at 1:03 pm
“A big battle of mine is the one where my sexuality is nothing whatsoever to do with my feminism. It really isn’t”
I don’t think my sexuality has anything to do with anything else at all, really. Things turn me on that I know are wrong and bad. If a man ever spoke to me outside the bedroom the same way I want a man to speak to me in bed I would slap him. Hard. In the face. But I can’t help that it turns me on. I need to be able to keep my sex and my politics separate, or I would probably go insane.
May 19, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Sometimes I stay offline for long stretches. And then I get back online and I read one of your posts and I think, Bitchy is such a genius. If I could get a paper version of this in the mail every week I would totally subscribe.
I love the way you engage the world.
May 20, 2008 at 1:38 am
The biggest lie is that you are unatractive.If you beleive thin is attractive and the way to be then you can never win.But us blokes who love women who are gorgeous and fat will have to just shout it a bit louder.And a dominant fat woman wow all our dreams come true.
They say that the oppressed person in the cage sometimes can’t see their oppression as clearly as the privelaged outside the cage.Stop thinking you are in anyway substandard!How many women have two men who crave giving their soul and their emery paper chafed inner thighs too.
I just wish that you could look in the mirror and see what we submissive men would probably see.A person who’s inner self illuminates her outer self.Ask your men whether they can see those dominant facial expressions they so love.
Anyway a child will always think its mother has the most beautiful face because of what that face means to them.
May 20, 2008 at 9:00 am
Hey bitchy. sup?
too tired to write about the rest of it, but your comment that the entire “Game” community is about the idea that only men want sex and women control it is dead wrong.
I mean, i studied the community at length for some time, there’s a LOT there that can be criticized, and please, feel free, but in this case, you’re off. peoples opinions vary, (no community is a hive mind) but most people seem to agree that men tend to openly pursue sex, while women have been conditioned to avoid sex or else they are sluts/whores. Most people in the community, and most of the “strategies” they use, tend to revolve around avoiding that.
May 25, 2008 at 5:53 am
Bitchy try you tube and type in male nude classics for some males in main stream movies.The Franco one may pique your interest.However it is spoiled by the fact that seh is doing it out of spite rather than lust.Still nice to see the other guests start writing on him.
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